Spheres

[Balder]

I'm thinking Sloterdijk's work on "spherology" might make for an interesting interface with OOO ( <-- haha, look at those spheres!).

 

Here's an interview with him where he reviews his Spheres trilogy.

 

Bettina Funcke: Until the publication of your trilogy, the image of the sphere was hardly present in contemporary theoretical discourse. I'm wondering how you came across this metaphor, which has gained such importance for your thinking in recent years. Which authors or texts do you refer to?

Peter Sloterdijk: A given culture never possesses a complete vocabulary for itself. The current language games only ever emphasize select topics and leave other phenomena unaddressed. This applies as well to the vocabulary of theory in the late twentieth century. In past decades, one could speak elaborately and with great nuance about everything that had to do with the temporal structure of the modern world. Tons of books on the historicization, futurization, and processing of everything were published�most of which are completely unreadable today. By contrast, it was still comparatively difficult ten years ago to comment sensibly on the spatialization of existence in the modern world; a thick haze still covered the theory landscape. Until recently, there was a voluntary spatial blindness�because to the extent that temporal problems were seen as progressive and cool, the questions of space were thought to be old-fashioned and conservative, a matter for old men and shabby imperialists. Even the fascinating, novel chapters on space in Deleuze and Guattari's Thousand Plateaus couldn't change the situation, since they arrived too early for the chronophilic, or time-worshipping, zeitgeist of those days. The same goes for programmatic propositions in late Foucault�according to whom we again enter an age of space�which in their time were still unable to usher in a transition.

My Spheres trilogy obviously belongs to a widespread reversal among philosophical and cultural-theoretical discourses that has taken place in the strongholds of contemporary reflection over the course of the past decade. As I began in 1990, while a fellow at Bard College, in New York, I had only a vague premonition of this topological turn within cultural theory. Only now, after the completion of the trilogy, do I see more clearly how my work is connected with that of numerous colleagues around the world, such as Homi Bhabha, Arjun Appadurai, and Edward S. Casey. Even Ilya Kabakov's installation art and the work of architects like Frei Otto, Grimshaw and Partners, or Rem Koolhaas, belong to the circle of theoretical relations. At the time, I wanted to work with the figures of the circle and arrow in order to offer my students in Vienna and New York, who were mainly young artists, an introduction to philosophical thinking. I thought that graphic figures would be useful in that context.

I was also fascinated by a chalkboard drawing Martin Heidegger made around 1960, in a seminar in Switzerland, in order to help psychiatrists better understand his ontological theses. As far as I know, this is the only time that Heidegger made use of visual means to illustrate logical facts; he otherwise rejected such antiphilosophical aids. In the drawing, one can see five arrows, each of which is rushing toward a single semicircular horizon�a magnificently abstract symbolization of the term Dasein as the state of being cast in the direction of an always-receding world horizon (unfortunately, it's not known how the psychiatrists reacted to it). But I still recall how my antenna began to buzz back then, and during the following years a veritable archaeology of spatial thought emerged from this impulse. The main focus may have been Eurocentric, but there was a constant consideration of non-European cultures, in particular India and China. Incidentally, I also owe something to Gaston Bachelard's Poetics of Space, although later I quite stubbornly departed from his promptings.

BF: But in your work the term sphere plays such a crucial role, whereas in the other new discourses of space one encounters terms like place, dwelling, territory, local, global, and other words ending with the suffix �scape.

PS: There are different reasons for this, partly linguistic and partly factual. Particularly crucial here is that below the thin layer of modern language games, in which the word sphere plays only a marginal role, lies a very powerful old layer�one could call it the two-thousand-year domain of old-European "sphere thinking." As modern intellectuals, we have simply forgotten that in the era between Plato and Leibniz almost everything to be said about God and the world was expressed in terms of a spherology. Think about the magical basic principle of medieval theosophy, which says, God is a sphere whose center is everywhere and whose circumference is nowhere. One could almost claim that the individualism of the modern era signifies an unconscious realization of this dogma. Even German semantics plays a role in my choice of terms, since between Goethe and Heidegger the word sphere is employed as an approximate synonym for the circle of life or world of meaning�and of course this already goes a ways toward accommodating my search for a language appropriate to animated, interpersonal, or surreal space.

BF: The subtitles of the three volumes of Spheres�Bubbles, Globes, and Foam�are similarly unusual, as if they were created in a linguistic realm that seems closer to everyday speech.

PS: The term metaphor that you used earlier makes me hesitate a bit because, in my opinion, words like sphere or globe are not metaphors but rather thought-images or, even better, thought-figures. After all, they first came out of geometry and had, beginning with Greek antiquity, a clear morphological sense, which turned into a cosmological sense after Plato. It is different with the titles of the first and third volumes, Bubbles and Foam. Here we are truly concerned with metaphors, at least on an initial reading. With Bubbles I tried to describe the dyadic space of resonance between people as we find it in symbiotic relations�mother and child, Philemon and Baucis, psychoanalyst and analysand, mystics and God, etc. By contrast, in addition to its metaphorical meaning, foam�I use it instead of the completely exhausted term society�has of course also a literal sense. From a physical perspective, it describes multichamber systems consisting of spaces formed by gas pressure and surface tensions, which restrict and deform one another according to fairly strict geometric laws. It seemed to me that modern urban systems could be easily understood with analogy to these exact, technical foam analyses. Spheres III emerged out of this intuition. One finds in this hybrid book a great deal of commentary on the transformation of sociology into a general theory of "air conditioning." Foam: That is, modern people live in "connected isolations," as the US architectural group Morphosis put it thirty years ago. In social foam there is no "communication"�this is also one of the words facing an apocalypse�but instead only inter-autistic and mimetic relations.

BF: While reading the books, it occurred to me that there are three different, successive points of orientation or even methods in each respective volume. Could one describe the first volume as esoteric, the second as exoteric, and the third as a Zeitdiagnostik, a diagnosis of the present moment?

PS: This question affects me in a very personal way because it's connected with a disturbingly deep diagnosis. It is true that the three volumes of Spheres don't follow one other in a singular trajectory; each has its own direction and its own climate. One could even wonder whether they really derive from the same author. The question is of course sophistical, since I know definitively that I wrote all three myself. However, this doesn't prove that I was always the same person in the seven years it took to write them. What guarantees that multiple personality disorder, an invention of postmodern doctors, doesn't simply represent the transition of modern literary criticism into the clinic, by which the disappearance of the author returns as the disintegration of the everyday personality?

As you know, I've always allowed myself as much freedom as possible in leaving the question open as to whether I'm a philosopher or a writer, but now you're forcing me into a corner. Since I ultimately speak as a philosopher and cannot envelop myself in artistic silence, I'll thus have to admit it: You're right. The beginning of the trilogy has an esoteric aspect, assuming that we understand the expression correctly. With its nearly seven hundred pages, Bubbles provides an excessive theory of pairs, a theory based on a fundamental irony. While everyday thought is firmly convinced it knows everything about pairs�namely, that they are the result of adding one plus one (biographically speaking, this means the effect of an "encounter")�I undertake the experiment to demonstrate to what extent the "being-a-pair" [Paar-Sein] precedes all encounters. In my pair analysis, the number two, or the dyad, appears as the absolute figure, the pure bipolar form. Accordingly, it always takes precedence over the two single units of which it seems to be "put together." This can be most easily demonstrated in the relationship between mother and child�or, even better, between fetus and placenta. With this we enter the terrain of a radicalized philosophical psychology that departs from the general faith in the priority of individuality. The truly esoteric is not found in the books on sale at the airport bookstore; it is depth psychology, which reminds us of pre-individual, pre-subjective, pre-egoistical conditions. This brings me very close to Lacan, who spoke occasionally of the "democratic esotericism" of psychoanalysis. And you can see what zones we enter in my book's relatively scandalous chapters on "negative gynecology" and prenatal existence in the womb�I completely understand why some readers have perceived this as macabre.

The second volume develops the public and political consequences of these basic assumptions; in this sense, it could be described as the exoteric component of the project. It examines the notion that older cultures have imagined the world primarily as a spirit-infused circle. I tried to show in Globes how the geometricization of the cosmos was first carried out by the Greeks; after that I reconstructed the geometricization of God under the neo-Platonic philosophers, which gave me the feeling of reopening one of the most exciting chapters in the history of ideas. Out of all this resulted, as if by itself, a philosophical history of globalization: First the universe was globalized with the help of geometry, then the earth was globalized with the help of capital.

Finally, in the third volume of Spheres, I have thematized the modern world in terms of a theory of spatial multiplicities. I begin with the idea that the world is not structured monospherically and all-communicatively, as the classical holists thought, but rather polyspherically and interidiotically. At the center of this volume is an immunological theory of architecture, because I maintain that houses are built immune systems. I thus provide on the one hand an interpretation of modern habitat, and on the other a new view of the mass container. But when I highlight the apartment and the sports stadium as the most important architectural innovations of the modern, it isn't out of art- or cultural-historical interest. Instead my aim is to give a new account of the history of atmospheres, and in my view, the apartment and the sports stadium are important primarily as atmospheric installations. They play a central role in the development of abundance, which defines the open secret of the modern. The praise of luxury with which the book ends is, in my opinion, the decisive act in terms of diagnosing the present.

BF: Especially in the third volume, you develop nothing less than a new, up-to-date terminology of critical theory by which you historically contextualize and delimit terms from the Frankfurt School. A far-reaching critique of the contemporary reception of critical theory's inheritance runs through the book. In particular, you criticize what you view as the misleading interpretation of this tradition by the American academy, leading you to rehearse the conceptual history and historical situating of terms such as revolution and society. Can you summarize what this critique consists of and why you think that an entirely new vocabulary needs to be invented?

PS: The reason a new vocabulary is necessary in the cultural sciences can be explained in seven simple words: because the old one is basically useless. And why? Because all previous natural languages, including theoretical discourse, were developed for a world of weight and solid substances. They are thus incapable of expressing the experiences of a world of lightness and relations. Consequently they are not suited to articulate the basic experiences of the modern and the postmodern, which construct a world based on mobilization and the easing of burdens. This already allows me to explain why, in my view, the critical theory of the Frankfurt School is outdated and must be replaced by a completely different discourse: Because of their Marxist heritage, critical theorists succumb to the realistic temptation of interpreting the light as appearance and the heavy as essence. Therefore they practice criticism in the old style in that they "expose" the lightness of appearance in the name of the heaviness of the real. In reality, I think that it is through the occurrence of abundance in the modern that the heavy has turned into appearance�and the "essential" now dwells in lightness, in the air, in the atmosphere. As soon as this is understood, the conditions of "criticism" change dramatically. Marx argued that all criticism begins with the critique of religion; I would say instead that all criticism begins with the critique of gravity. In addition, we can recognize that European "critical theory" did not survive the trip across the Atlantic unscathed. The authentic critical theory "at home" was, above all, a kind of secret theology: It treated the failures of creation (aka society) and criticized reality in the (unnamed) name of the infinite. This approach was so cleverly encoded that American sociologists and literary critics could argue unchallenged that they were reading a plea for a multicultural society.

BF: Your use of images, idiosyncratic for books of philosophy, recalls contemporaries in the German-speaking realm such as Alexander Kluge, Klaus Theweleit, and to a certain extent W.G. Sebald. The images are used not as illustrations but as parallel narratives. Could one also consider Walter Benjamin's Arcades Project as a historical model that likewise includes an extensive image section? The question of your reference to The Arcades Project suggests itself because this book also presents a widely diverse examination of spaces and atmospheres that have marked the contemporary moment. Is it fair to say that, in a way, your examinations of the stadium and the apartment house of the twentieth century are continuing Benjamin's studies of the emerging modern era's spatial conception and the arcades?

PS: The inclusion of images in the flow of the text is my answer to the transformation of spatial consciousness in modern theory. Considered in terms of media history, I no longer write my philosophical prose on the page of a book but on a monitor page�that is, virtually, in hypertext space. The monitor space is a close relation of the modern exhibition space, a kind of electronic white cube. When you work there, it is logical that you imagine a second and third text "next to" the verbal text, and this is exactly what authors who work with visual parallel-narratives are doing.

The reference to Walter Benjamin is absolutely necessary in this context, and I'm pleased that you've brought up his name. However, I must admit that my relationship to Benjamin is not simple. On the one hand, his Arcades Project is utterly exemplary for today's cultural theory because it already anticipates almost everything that was to become important later�the passion for the archive; the "micrological" examination of the detail; media theory; discourse analysis; and the search for a sovereign viewpoint from which one can grasp the capitalistic totality. On the other hand, I'm convinced that Benjamin's work reaches a dead end and that he failed as a theorist. In my forthcoming book, Im Weltinnenraum des Kapitals: FY�r eine philosophische Theorie der Globalisierung (Inside the Internal Space of World Capital: For a Philosophical Theory of Globalization, 2005), you'll find a critique of Benjaminism that leads to a pretty devastating result. I accuse Benjamin of not really understanding, and thus only halfheartedly following, his own superb ideas around the creation of new interiors through capitalism. Even worse for me is the fact that he placed the historically outdated architectural type of the arcade at the center of this analysis, although already by his time it couldn't be ignored that the capitalistic interior had long since moved beyond the arcade stage. Sports stadiums, convention centers, large hotels, and resorts would have been far more worthy of Benjamin's attention. The whole idea of wanting to write an "ur-history of the nineteenth century" rests on a misconception. Thus I suggest examining the capitalistic interiors on their own relevant terms, which leads, consequently, to a theory of foam. What we need today is an "air-conditioning project" for large social entities or a generalized "greenhouse project." I think that in Spheres III one can already partly recognize what the beginnings of such a post-Benjaminian treatment of the pluralized spatial creations of the modern and postmodern might look like.

BF: Another post-Benjaminian book is Negri and Hardt's Empire. In the third volume of Spheres, you criticize these authors' approach, which rests on the term multitude. To what extent, in your opinion, is their investigation a failed effort?

PS: Let's first talk about Negri and Hardt's success: They have managed to give the current desire for radicality a novum organum, an accomplishment that deserves admiration. At the same time, I suspect that the secret behind the book's great success can be ascribed to its thinly veiled religious tones. At first one doesn't easily recognize the good old-left radicalism when Saint Francis takes the stage next to Marx and Deleuze. But this new alliance with the saints is instructive for the position of left radicalism in the post-Marxist situation. Whoever wants to practice fundamental opposition today needs allies who are not entirely of this world. In order to grasp the awkward situation of left radicalism, one should recall Leon Festinger's theory of cognitive dissonance. According to Festinger, ideologies that no longer match circumstances are reinterpreted by their believers until they appear to match them again�with the unavoidable result that theories become increasingly bizarre. Gershom Scholem clarified something similar in relation to the fate of Jewish prophetism. The gist of what he says is this: When prophetism fails, apocalypticism emerges; when apocalypticism fails, gnosis emerges. An analogous escalation can be observed in the political opposition movements since 1789: When the bourgeois revolution fails or is insufficient, left radicalism emerges; when left radicalism fails or is insufficient, the mystique of protest emerges. It seems to me that Negri has arrived at exactly this point. His "multitude" calls forth a community of angry saints in which the fire of pure opposition burns�yet it no longer offers a revolutionary project, instead testifying by its mere existence to a world counter to universal capitalism. Thus one cannot simply say that Negri's framework failed�it has already incorporated his failure. Perhaps it would be more accurate to claim that the political revolutionary has become transformed into a spiritual teacher. This is the price to be paid by anyone who seriously tries to develop a language of the left beyond resentment.

 

[Edward theurj Berge]

Perhaps Globey might have some knowledge of volume 2?

[Dial]

"The child's earliest "auto"eroticisms are eo ipso based on games of resonance, not mirrorings of the self.  Hence the mature subject status lies not in the supposed turn towards the object, but rather in the ability to master inner and outer acts at higher medial levels"

I like this: resonance rather than specularity.

[Balder]

I like it, too.  And, of course, it's a reasonable supposition that, for the prenatal infant, hearing and touch are the primary sense modalities around which the prenatal emergent self is organized.  I am unfortunately (too) pressed for time these past few days to read or write much, but at some point I would like to explore Slot's reflections here in relation to Levin's in The Listening Self. 

[Balder]

I was asked recently by Sean Esbjorn-Hargens to share some of my thoughts on Integral, OOO, and Sloterdijk's sphereology with one of his colleagues (who is a Deleuzian and Integralist, apparently, interested also in translineage spirituality, among other things).  Here's an excerpt from my letter, which summarizes some of my current thinking on this topic.

My work on the interface of Integral Theory, OOO, and Sloterdijk's sphereology is still in the exploratory phase, so I do not have a piece of writing I'm ready to share with anyone yet, but I'm happy to talk with you about some of my ideas in this area, current streams of inquiry, etc.  I'm not sure what your familiarity with either OOO or Sloterdijk is, and I don't want to bore you with unnecessary introductory remarks if you are already familiar with them, so I'll just start making a few cursory remarks about the basic strands of my project and will be happy to discuss things in more detail in subsequent emails if you would like. 

I became interested in Sloterdijk's work on sphereology after noticing the resonance between his ideas (in an essay I came across online) and several concepts I explored in my most recent paper (attached).  Through recent reflections on OOO's expanded conception of "object" in the context of my ongoing interest in integral enactive theory, autopoiesis and autopoietic closure, etc, I started thinking about holons or objects in enactive terms as "generative (en)closures."  (As a brief background aside, OOO argues that all objects contain an irreducible, withdrawn substance, variously conceived by different OOO philosophers.  From my conceptual stance as an Integral postmetaphysical theorist, I am not entirely comfortable with some aspects of this new substance-thinking and feel fairly certain that the "withdrawal" of objects OOO philosophers seek can be found in autopoietic closure itself, without having to posit any fixed or hidden substance beyond this).  But back to the notion of "generative (en)closures":  as you will see in the attached paper, I attempt to (begin to) think this concept in relation to several perspectives, namely holonic, autopoietic-enactive, phenomenological, and ontological (the latter, especially, in relation to Jean-Luc Nancy's notion of being singular plural or Latour's principle of irreduction).  I believe Nancy's being singular plural, realized in an integral holonic model or a theory of objects, is quite consonant with, or can give support to, Sean's concept of the "multiple object."  From an OOO perspective, the concept of multiple object, if interpreted primarily or exclusively in a perspectivist or correlationist fashion (which might equate the being of objects with their perspectival manifestations), might be seen to veer too far in the direction of an object-undermining, non-realist idealism, but this can be mitigated (I will argue in a paper I'm working on now) by following something like OOO's and/or Bhaskar's transcendental realism (which identifies the "reality" of an object as the irreducibility of any object to any particular perspectival manifestation or set or sum of perspectival manifestations of the object.)  Levi Bryant's work is particularly helpful in this regard, integrating as it does the work of Bhaskar, Niklas Luhmann, Deleuze, Lacan, and others.

To relate this to Sloterdijk: as I was thinking about and developing the above ideas, I came across Sloterdijk's Spheres trilogy.  I have only read the first book so far, as the other two have yet to be translated into English, so for the latter two, I am at this point relying on various published summaries and discussions of these works.  Sloterdijk's work, like OOO philosopher Graham Harman's, is a post-Heideggerian philosophy.  In Sloterdijk's case, he attempts to develop a philosophy of Space to complement Heidegger's prior focus on Time.  Reading Sloterdijk's work, particularly in his book, Bubbles, I found a natural affinity between some of the concepts I was developing in relation to generative (en)closure and disenclosure (briefly discussed in my attached paper) and Sloterdijk's sphereological model of dyadic bubbles, mythic-metaphysical globes or monospheres, and (post)postmodern multiplistic, multi-focal foams.  Sloterdijk proposes the latter as the most suitable topology for our age.  As with Nancy (or others), Sloterdijk argues for a kind of plurisingularity: here, seeing intimacy and relationality at the heart of any sphere formation, with any agency understood as always already agency-in-communion.  Sloterdijk's spheres are sorts of generative (en)closures, being both enacted products and generative topologies.  Sloterdijk proposes "sphere" as a fundamental philosophical concept, "with topological, anthropological, immunological and semiotic aspects" (as Rouanet summarizes his work).  With the help of Integral theory's categories of thought, I would like to extend sphereological thinking to other domains as well, and am exploring how the concepts of "sphere" and "holon" (and perhaps also the OOO-ian "object") can complement and inform one other.

As an example, Sloterdijk describes multiple topoi or enacted sphereological spaces, related to various embodied actions or interfaces:  the chirotop, or the topos enacted by performances-in-the-world of the human hand; the phonotop, or the topos enacted by vocal performances; the uterotop, empathic spheres that start with and progressively expand from maternal care; the alethotop, or lineages as guardians and enactors of particular knowledge forms; etc.  Each of these topoi are generative (en)closures of sorts, to use my terminology, which can easily be related (in my opinion) to, and also supplemented by, an Integral Methodological Pluralist model, so I am in the midst of working that out.  I also see a consonance between some of his descriptions and the enactive-phenomenological work of David Michael Levin, who meditates in turn (in his various books) on the phenomenological, spiritual, and political-sociological spaces brought forth by performances of the body, vision, hearing, voice, gesture, etc.  So, this is something else I intend to develop and bring forth in one of several papers in the works.

In broad overview, then, Sloterdijk describes a progressive-developmental history of human culture and psyche as the enaction of different types of sphereological spaces, and provides an (Integral postmetaphysically useful) account of the development and inevitable collapse of the metaphysical monosphere and the emergence of a more Deleuzian or Integral pluralistic topology; and philosophically, I believe he introduces concepts which can enrich Integral enactive and holonic theories.  I find these ideas useful for extending and further fleshing out my thoughts on translineage practice, for instance, but also for extending Integral thinking as a whole.  So, that's the general thrust of my present work.

[Edward theurj Berge]

What is the name of this colleague? Any links to his writing?

[Balder]

His name is Bobby Richards. I haven't Googled him or any of his writings, but he sounds like a kindred spirit.  He names his interests and inspirations as including gebser, aurobindo, western esotericism and hermeticism, zen, dzogchen, deleuze, sloterdijk, zizek, derrida, merleau-ponty, nancy, philip k. dick, delanda, bryant, varela, et al.

[Dial]

Nice post here with some mention of him. Sounds appealing, I must say.

http://footnotes2plato.com/2012/08/18/the-hermetic-deleuze-philosop...

[Balder]

Very interesting -- thanks, Dial.  I actually just received notice of Bobby Richards' review a few moments ago from a new acquaintance (a monk who is also interested in Integral philosophy and related topics), who actually also just recommended The Hermeneutic Deleuze to me last week.  I posted about it here.  Now, here is an old online blogging friend, Matthew Segall, writing about the book and quoting Bobby Richards.  Interestingly, I met with Jorge Ferrer for the first time on Friday, and I both told him about this book, which he hadn't heard of yet, and I asked him about Matthew Segall and whether he ever read his blogs, since I understand Matthew was in Jorge's class not long back.  What a strange, interesting, synchronistic confluences of forces!  Magic is afoot, it seems.  I will get this book.  I also will be calling Bobby Richards later this week, so I'll look forward to telling him about these mixing currents.

[Edward theurj Berge]

I admit to being highly skeptical of a hermetic interpretation of anything, let alone Deleuze. This is largely due to my initiation into, and intense participation in, a contemporary hermetic tradition some years ago. I've discussed this elsewhere and found so much metaphysical baggage in this line that I could no longer tolerate it, being in my mind retro-romantic and quite regressive. Now I hear the buzzwords "re-imagined" and "re-invented" regarding hermetics, and thought this could be the case when I re-entered that tradition in the last few years, only to discover in a school purportedly intent on doing exactly that that the egregore, so to speak, is so rife with the baggage that I found the effort not worth the time.

However I more and more find that with Stengers and others there is sorcery afoot, in capitalism and elsewhere. I like Bryant's notion of thought-forms as objects in themselves, and in which we take part and are in large part controlled by them, as in ideology. A more modern term for this is meme, and they are much larger than any one of us, or even any combination. I prefer it because it takes out the timeless and unchanging form aspect of it, as memes, like Bryant's objects, are contingent, historical and material. Still, they are quite powerful, like hyperobjects, and very much like angels and demons, very much like egregores, and need to be changed to effect humane political enactment.

So if we can re-work the hermetic into something like this I'm all for it. But I'm not sure we can do so by accepting the perennial tradition's interpretations and practices, for they are hand-in-hand of a metaphysics of the most ontotheological kind and will only serve to contaminate, and ultimately defeat, a postmetaphysical project.

[Matthew Segall]

Hey Balder, 

I noticed footnotes2plato was linking here, figured I'd come see what the conversation was about. I have not read Sloterdijk's Spheres, but so far your friend Bobby is right about The Hermetic Deleuze. I'm only on page 61, but Ramey's treatment of the hermetic tradition (with which I am familiar rather familiar) steers clear of piousness while still capturing its imaginative power and ongoing relevance; and his treatment of Deleuze (who I am far less familiar with) is clear and compelling. I did indeed recently take one of Jorge's classes, co-taught with prof. of philosophy and religion Jacob Sherman. I wrote a paper for him that might be relevant to theurj's concerns. I'll post it below. 

Balder said:

Very interesting -- thanks, Dial.  I actually just received notice of Bobby Richards' review a few moments ago from a new acquaintance (a monk who is also interested in Integral philosophy and related topics), who actually also just recommended The Hermeneutic Deleuze to me last week.  I posted about it here.  Now, here is an old online blogging friend, Matthew Segall, writing about the book and quoting Bobby Richards.  Interestingly, I met with Jorge Ferrer for the first time on Friday, and I both told him about this book, which he hadn't heard of yet, and I asked him Matthew Segall and whether he ever read his blogs, since I understand Matthew was in Jorge's class not long back.  What a strange, interesting, synchronistic confluences of forces!  Magic is afoot, it seems.  I will get this book.  I also will be calling Bobby Richards later this week, so I'll look forward to telling him about these mixing currents.

[Matthew Segall]

Theurj, 

I'd be curious to know who you were studying during your initiation into the regressive, retro-romantic, metaphysical sludge of contemporary hermeticism? Could you offer some examples of the baggage you felt was too heavy to carry? 

I share your concerns with the so-called perennial tradition, and I think any retrieval of hermeticism has to pull this strange philosophical mix of alchemy, astrology, and magic free of any supposedly pure origins in some long lost wisdom from the beginning of time. Hermeticism is hybridic by its very nature, borrowing from anything that proves useful in its pursuit of eudaimonic psyche- and physis-transforming arts and sciences. I wrote a paper for Jorge Ferrer on an example of how hermeticism can be creatively retrieved to aid the study of chemically-altered (alchemical) consciousness: http://footnotes2plato.com/2012/04/25/participatory-psychedelia-tra...

theurj said:

I admit to being highly skeptical of a hermetic interpretation of anything, let alone Deleuze. This is largely due to my initiation into, and intense participation in, a contemporary hermetic tradition some years ago. I've discussed this elsewhere and found so much metaphysical baggage in this line that I could no longer tolerate it, being in my mind retro-romantic and quite regressive. Now I hear the buzzwords "re-imagined" and "re-invented" regarding hermetics, and thought this could be the case when I re-entered that tradition in the last few years, only to discover in a school purportedly intent on doing exactly that that the egregore, so to speak, is so rife with the baggage that I found the effort not worth the time.

However I more and more find that with Stengers and others there is sorcery afoot, in capitalism and elsewhere. I like Bryant's notion of thought-forms as objects in themselves, and in which we take part and are in large part controlled by them, as in ideology. A more modern term for this is meme, and they are much larger than any one of us, or even any combination. I prefer it because it takes out the timeless and unchanging form aspect of it, as memes, like Bryant's objects, are contingent, historical and material. Still, they are quite powerful, like hyperobjects, and very much like angels and demons, very much like egregores, and need to be changed to effect humane political enactment.

So if we can re-work the hermetic into something like this I'm all for it. But I'm not sure we can do so by accepting the perennial tradition's interpretations and practices, for they are hand-in-hand of a metaphysics of the most ontotheological kind and will only serve to contaminate, and ultimately defeat, a postmetaphysical project.

[Edward theurj Berge]

P. 5 of this thread contains some discussion of this. See that post and several others on that page following.