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The root of power law religion

A ‘power law’ refers specifically to a statistical relationship between quantities, such that a change in one quantity has a proportional change in another. One property of this law is scale…Continue

Started Aug 2

Can you be at a level of development?
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My recent article by the above name is at Integral World, which is an edited version of the…Continue

Started this discussion. Last reply by Edward theurj Berge May 10.

Defintions of IPS
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The issue link is here. There has been some discussion of this at IC…Continue

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The agency of objects
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We've discussed this in various threads like object-oriented ontology and Edwards' work on social holons. In that light I came upon an interesting take on the agency of artifacts in light of the…Continue

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Edward theurj Berge replied to Edward theurj Berge's discussion Bruno Latour
"From Footnotes2Plato FB page: "I'm participating in a reading group with about 40 other scholars focusing on Bruno Latour's recently published book An Inquiry into Modes of Existence: An Anthropology of the Moderns (2013). This week…"
Aug 11
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The root of power law religion

A ‘power law’ refers specifically to a statistical relationship between quantities, such that a change in one quantity has a proportional change in another. One property of this law is scale invariance, otherwise known as ‘scale-free,’ meaning the same proportion repeats at every scale in a self-similar pattern. Mathematical fractals are an example of such a power law. Power laws are taken as universal and have been applied to any and all phenomena to prove the universality of this…See More
Aug 2
Edward theurj Berge replied to Edward theurj Berge's discussion Metamodernism
"Abramson: Metamodernism in 5 diagrams."
Jul 15
Edward theurj Berge replied to Edward theurj Berge's discussion Metamodernism
"Abramson from an '18 essay: "Metamodernism is an evolution of postmodernism, and it comes from people who acknowledge how terrible and fractured everything and everyone is — a knowledge that’s the sum and substance of our…"
Jul 14
Edward theurj Berge replied to Edward theurj Berge's discussion From capitalism to the collaborative commons
"Good new post by Bonnitta Roy on complex potential states. She uses process philosophy to challenge the limiting paradigm of complexity science, partly because it tries to explain everything in its own terms. Her suggestion is "a shift from…"
Jun 27
Edward theurj Berge replied to Edward theurj Berge's discussion Real and false reason
"Not sure if I posted this before but it is of direct relevance to this thread: "In the first place it must be underscored that systems cannot do without hierarchies. [...] Problems arise, however, when these hierarchies are seen as either too…"
Jun 23
Edward theurj Berge replied to Edward theurj Berge's discussion From capitalism to the collaborative commons
"In Chapter One of The Listening Society Freinacht defines the sociological 'center' pragmatically, more in terms of its dominant competitive functionality than some lame compromise between liberal and conservative. And this is particular…"
May 19
Edward theurj Berge replied to Edward theurj Berge's discussion Can you be at a level of development?
"Now S&H did note "contemporary uses of SC methods." And Murray did note that "the quantity of research supporting the strength of the WUSCT and its ego development model is one or two orders of magnitude larger than that of the…"
May 10
Edward theurj Berge replied to Edward theurj Berge's discussion Can you be at a level of development?
"However Stein and Heikkinen (2009) noted the following:"In this preliminary review, it also appears that contemporary uses of sentence completion methods to measure ego development are not justified by peer-reviewed validity and reliability…"
May 9
Edward theurj Berge replied to Edward theurj Berge's discussion Can you be at a level of development?
"Another resource relevant to the discussion is Tom Murray's article on sentence completion tests (SCT), the main instrument for measuring ego development. The other developmental models don't use these, instead measuring specific task…"
May 9
Edward theurj Berge posted a discussion

Can you be at a level of development?

My recent article by the above name is at Integral World, which is an edited version of the IPS FB thread by the same name. The introduction: "It seems common in integral circles to stereotype people by claiming an individual resides at a specific developmental level, as if someone fits easily…See More
May 9
Edward theurj Berge replied to Edward theurj Berge's discussion Real and false reason
"Article by Kohler, A.(2018). Human Arenas, 1(1), pp. 97-111.  Some interesting Piaget quotes follow, observations I've repeatedly made in the IPS forum (Ning, Facebook) over the years: "Finally, it is not impossible that the class…"
May 2
Edward theurj Berge replied to Edward theurj Berge's discussion From capitalism to the collaborative commons
"Ending climate change requires the end of capitalism, an excerpt: "We will simply have to throw the kitchen sink at this. Policy tweaks such as a carbon tax won’t do it. We need to fundamentally re-evaluate our relationship to…"
Apr 28
Edward theurj Berge replied to Edward theurj Berge's discussion Metamodernism
"As I've noted in other threads, I'm reading Rushkoff's Team Human. Chapters 61 and 62 deal with art after modernism. As Abramson noted above, it shuns bi-valence, the traditional hero v. villain. It also shuns traditional plot…"
Apr 19
Edward theurj Berge replied to Edward theurj Berge's discussion From capitalism to the collaborative commons
"Ruskoff's section on economics is a critique of capitalism. Capitalism is the underlying operating system driving our tech. Its very purpose is to extract wealth for shareholders at the expense of everyone else. Chartered monopolies (which grew…"
Apr 18
Troy Wiley replied to Edward theurj Berge's discussion From capitalism to the collaborative commons
"Yep we've created a monster within our systems quadrant."
Apr 17

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At 3:01pm on December 11, 2017, Trish Nowland said…

Hi there,

Following Neelesh's comment - if there's still an interest in collating contributions, would it be possible to find out a little more detail about how we can contribute perspectives?

Many thanks for being in touch,

Trish

At 7:53am on November 18, 2017, Neelesh Marik said…

Can you share some details please on the initiative and the work involved? Thanks

At 6:27pm on September 27, 2010, Balder said…
LOL, hmm, I like the sound of that. I don't think so. Just was checking out what they're up to. Seems like it's pretty basic, not really touching much of what we explore here (that I can tell from the discussion).
At 6:21pm on September 27, 2010, Balder said…
There's an interfaith ministry program in New York called One Spirit that has recently opened a program to train people to be "integral spiritual mentors and ministers," led by Lynne Feldman and Joanne Ruben. There was a webinar today on this, which is just winding up.
At 2:08pm on March 26, 2010, shaman sun said…
Would be happy to discuss Gebser, thank you for the link! I'll post something up shortly.
At 2:26pm on March 24, 2010, Lol said…
no more so than anyone having an attachment to 'the end of enlightenment', or to the theory of hierarchical complexity ; ) ...no, i guess i'm trying to see if the state of dzogchen can be regarded differently, as something other than a metaphysical, transcendental 'given' -- i can't see any 'absolute giveness' inherent in the idea of infinite potentiality manifesting out of openess.
At 1:07pm on March 24, 2010, Lol said…
thanks for the link to the transpersonal psychology thread, and it's good to be talking about this with you now, because i wasn't able to raise this at the time. your posts then quoting Capriles were in reference to the pre-trans fallacy, and on having a look at the time at Beyond Mind 2, i came across the part i quoted in my previous message, which at the time made me think of your premise that the so called primordial or non-dual state (rigpa) was nothing more than, as you concisely put it, the state of pre-reflexive awareness integrated with the later ego. attempting to put jargon aside as much as possible, the dzogchen teaching distinguishes between the 'base-of-all' consciousness (kun.zhi nam.shes, a la yogachara, which doesn't automatically imply being present to/in rigpa -- i.e. one can rest in a half-asleep state of a base level of awareness without being in "instant presence") and the 'state of dzogchen', which is the inseparability of kun.zhi (here a different kind/meaning of 'kun.zhi') and rigpa. i'm hoping we don't end up again simply agreeing to differ...i'm wondering rather if you might consider that the kind of half-asleep awareness we can have when meditating, which can be running on automatic, is itself not apart from the ego - in fact the self/ego might be distractedly musing on something within this drowsy state - but from the point of view of the dzogchen teaching it is not the "instant presence" of (or being "instantly present in") the so called non-dual state. kind regards, best wishes.
At 2:53pm on March 23, 2010, Lol said…
hi theurj...can't find the relevant threads/posts now, but vis a vis your proposition that the so called natural/non-dual state is nothing more than the baseline, zero level of hierarchical complexity (my words not yours, as i can't quote you directly, but i'm hoping you'll accept them as adequately capturing your intended meaning), what do you think of the notion that this baseline/zero level might be better represented by "...the state known as base-of-all or kunzhi (kun gzhi) … as manifest when one cozily remains in the experience of the inner luminosity of dang (gdangs) energy known as tingsel (gting gsal)24 without reGnizing this luminosity (a reGnition that would turn it into an instance of the dharmakaya)" (Capriles: Beyond Mind 2 p.5), rather than the so called non-dual state of "instant presence" itself?
At 3:23pm on March 20, 2010, Joseph said…
Hi Edward

I just went back into an email you sent me from 2 years ago and requested to join the KW meetup group. So I haven't been yet but hope to check it out soon.

joseph
 
 
 
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