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The Language Vs. Experience Debate
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Here's a side discussion that took place on Infinite Conversations on the ever-sticky topic of whether language (and philosophy) is necessarily disembodied, non-experiential, etc.EDWARDAs to Tom’s…Continue

Tags: meditation, practice, grammatology, derrida, experience

Started this discussion. Last reply by Edward theurj Berge Feb 14.

Nomads (Song for Earth Day 2016)
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Here's a new song (and video) I created for Earth Day 2016.Continue

Tags: seaquence, ney, flute, day, earth

Started this discussion. Last reply by Balder Jul 1, 2016.

Young Prince Siddhartha
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Young Prince SiddharthaBruce Alderman Now the grounds of the Palace of Shudhodana were vast without measure, so that a day’s ride by horse would not carry one from the East Wall to the West, nor…Continue

Tags: impermanence, siddhartha, fable

Started this discussion. Last reply by Balder Apr 4, 2016.

XK-16
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Here's a new song I just finished --the third of an experimental series of songs I'm making using the online Seaquence program to create the synthesizer (and some of the beat) parts.  I started…Continue

Tags: world, chinese, xk-16, seaquence, flute

Started this discussion. Last reply by Balder Mar 13, 2016.

 

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Edward theurj Berge replied to Balder's discussion The Language Vs. Experience Debate
"And then there's Tibetan Buddhist debate practice: "The distinctive form of Tibetan debate (rtsod pa) plays an important part of philosophical investigations in Tibetan intellectual communities. It is central in the Gelug sect, in…"
Feb 14
Edward theurj Berge replied to Balder's discussion The Language Vs. Experience Debate
"Merleau Ponty on hyper-dialectic:“What we call hyper-dialectic is a thought that, on the contrary, is capable of reaching truth because it envisages without restriction the plurality of the relationships and what has been called ambiguity. The…"
Feb 14
Edward theurj Berge replied to Balder's discussion The Language Vs. Experience Debate
"I'm struck by how every written or spoken communication is an occasion of the unprecedented. Yes, we use the same words we've always used, maybe a new one on occasion. But each time we speak or write is novel in that we've never done…"
Feb 13
Edward theurj Berge replied to Balder's discussion The Language Vs. Experience Debate
"And the following from the first page of the ITP thread: Back on the Gaia forum I discussed Fenner's deconstructive contemplation in relation to Derrida's deconstructive (methodless) method. Fenner's method is based on various…"
Feb 13
Edward theurj Berge replied to Balder's discussion The Language Vs. Experience Debate
"And later in that thread: Recall I compared Wilber's consciousness per se (CPS) with Derrida's khora in this thread. On p. 1 quoting Caputo: "Moreover, while it [khora] cannot be perceived by the senses but only by the mind,…"
Feb 13
Edward theurj Berge replied to Balder's discussion The Language Vs. Experience Debate
"I'm also reminded of thispost on ILP practice. A relevant clip: The initial stages of the absolute practice is basically about sitting and unwinding. The mid-stages then include relative deconstructive and dissolving practice to get one back…"
Feb 13
Edward theurj Berge replied to Balder's discussion The Language Vs. Experience Debate
"A relevant clip from Philosophy in the Flesh:"Categorization is thus not a purely intellectual matter, occurring after the fact of experience. Rather the formation and use of categories are the stuff on experience.... We cannot, as some…"
Feb 12
Edward theurj Berge replied to Balder's discussion The Language Vs. Experience Debate
"And then there's this interesting take:"As a method of oppositional reading, deconstruction argues that a text, and by extension any object of observation including the self, is characterized by disunity rather than unity. The present…"
Feb 12
Edward theurj Berge replied to Balder's discussion The Language Vs. Experience Debate
"At least a few of the postmetaphysicians in this forum agree with the following critique: "Two main aspects of Derrida's thinking regarding phenomenology remain clear. Firstly, he thinks that the phenomenological emphasis upon the…"
Feb 12
Edward theurj Berge replied to Balder's discussion The Language Vs. Experience Debate
"That discussion is the straw that broke my IC back. To me they are a bunch of dogmatic, religious fundamentalists of the privileged access to direct and superior experience variety. It's almost as bad as trying to reason with a Dumpster, since…"
Feb 11
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The Language Vs. Experience Debate

Here's a side discussion that took place on Infinite Conversations on the ever-sticky topic of whether language (and philosophy) is necessarily disembodied, non-experiential, etc.EDWARDAs to Tom’s paper on uncertainty and emptiness, I appreciate what David Loy said of relevance in this 2 article:"Today the thinker most often compared to Nagarjuna is the French philosopher Jacques Derrida… Derrida is not interested in defending any philosophical position of his own but instead is concerned with…See More
Feb 11
Balder replied to Edward theurj Berge's discussion The intersection of pattern dynamics and integral postmetaphysical spirituality: What brings us together
"David and Tim, I really enjoyed your conversation. When I was reviewing and proofreading your transcript for this issue, I kept thinking how complementary what you were describing was to some of the themes explored in my “Generative…"
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"Hi Bruce, I had a message posted on my wall by a new member, James Pollard, asking me to contact him by email with a vague message that sounds like phishing to me. He's listed as a new member, from Ghana, but I thought the group was full at…"
May 29, 2018

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Divine In-Dwelling: Invitation to a Trinitarian Theology of Religions

Divine In-Dwelling: Invitation to a Trinitarian Theology of Religions

by Bruce Alderman

Richard Rohr and Mike Morrell have written a very accessible and engaging book on a topic typically…

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Posted on October 30, 2016 at 11:30am — 3 Comments

Three Nows, the Future Infinitive, and Triple-Loop Awareness

Recently, a Buddhist teacher and friend of mine named Hokai posted a blog on stages and states of time awareness that invites us to take an integral perspective on what we mean by “the power of Now.”  Here is what he says:

    You know about present, right? While there are quite a few perspectives on present, including past present and…

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Posted on May 12, 2014 at 8:30am — 3 Comments

Virtual Reality, Integral Consciousness, and TSK

The following is a blog post from a couple years ago. I'm reposting it now because I've discovered a nice video of the virtual art installation the blog is based on, which I'll post in a reply below.

Recently, through an essay by Ron Purser (a professor at San Francisco State University and a writer on TSK, Gebser, and related topics), I was introduced to the fascinating virtual art of Char…

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Posted on May 8, 2010 at 1:21pm — 3 Comments

Raimon Panikkar vs. The New Atheists: The Ultimate Smackdown



In honor of Fr. Panikkar's recent passing, I am resurrecting an old blog on his work that I wrote several years ago. I wrote the blog in the context of an ongoing blogosphere debate, at the time, around the work of the so-called New Atheists and the role…

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Posted on April 1, 2010 at 11:30am — 1 Comment

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At 10:14pm on May 29, 2018, Joseph said…

Hi Bruce, I had a message posted on my wall by a new member, James Pollard, asking me to contact him by email with a vague message that sounds like phishing to me. He's listed as a new member, from Ghana, but I thought the group was full at this time. Is it possible the forum has been hacked?

At 10:21am on March 12, 2014, Darrell R. Moneyhon said…

Bruce, Is this old email address still one that you have or use? 

rbruce11@comcast.net

I sent you a copy of most recent draft of the book Your Third Nature which I'm working on (118 pages into it). I further developed my flare/self model. Explore many "gray areas" between quadrants in certain (recent) sections of the book. Quad crossover is not two contradictory if one assumes a reality substratum where convergence and non-locality might be. All it takes is a bit of dipping deeper into reality and then bringing the information back up toward the surface layers of reality (or ways of enacting?) in order to successfully cross from one quadrant to another, without merely conflating them. This is essentially a non-dual perspective of dualities. Depth recognition resolves the the paradox of non-dual duality. At the deeper perspective all the ten thousand things (Taoism) are one, but at a shallower perspective they remain many. If "deeper" is more of an essense of reality, then in some sense it is more really real than duality, but that doesn't mean that duality is nothing but an illusion. It is as real as can be at the level in which it is. Somehow even though a real, objective-like, depth dimension is added to reality, the viewing from different depth levels seems like the good old frames of reference or sets of operations valued by a postmetaphysical camp. If a new metaphysical reality has been posited in the form of a reality-with-depth-and-unfolding, at least it includes careful qualifications about "truth," instead of positing a one-size-fits all truth. Truth is relative to how deep in the flare you are centered. Also it is relative to how well integrated depth and surface experiences and/or transactions are (my "d x dc" formula, or "depth with depth continuity"). 

Let me know if I need to use a different email address. 

Do you have time, energy, and interest to look into the line of thought I am sharing here (and in the book)? 

My line of thought is much in line with the whole quantum consciousness line of thought, and subject, I suppose, to the same quad-conflation criticism. 

Darrell

At 11:21am on January 2, 2014, Eva Fidjeland said…

Thank you. Happy New Year, Balder.

At 9:09pm on October 24, 2013, Ann Schranz said…

Hi, Bruce.  Thank you for the welcome!

At 8:18pm on October 8, 2013, John O'Neill said…

Thanks Bruce, Good to be a part of the forum. I'm looking forward to getting  a bit involved with it. I'm glad we will be discussing my paper down the track. You may need to right click on it , to access it on the metaIntegral site, probably  because I used an older edition of Adobe Reader.

 

At 10:09am on October 4, 2013, Neelesh Marik said…

Thanks Bruce

At 1:10am on September 2, 2013, christin schaffer said…

Hi and Thank you, glad to be here, inspiring page for me, as far as i can see. warm regards christin

At 7:17am on August 21, 2013, Tim Winton said…

Thanks Bruce. Looking forward to diving in!

At 6:50pm on July 16, 2013, Marlo Yaroslav Devanko said…

Thanks Bruce-ji. It's a pleasure to be here

At 7:47am on June 26, 2013, Victor Shiryaev said…

Hi Bruce, just realized it's you! Thanks for welcoming, and great job - this place seems to be the hottest integral hub these days!!

 
 
 
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