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From Bacteria to Bach and Back: The Evolution of Minds by Daniel Dennett
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Google talk on his new book, From Bacteria to Bach and Back: The Evolution of Minds. The blurb:"How did we come to have minds? For centuries, this question has intrigued psychologists, physicists,…Continue

Started this discussion. Last reply by Edwyrd theurj Burj Sep 16.

Zak Stein's Lectical analysis of interpretations of AQAL
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Zak Stein did a measurement study of how JFK graduate students in integral theory and practice programs thought…Continue

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The Allure of Things: Process and Object in Contemporary Philosophy
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Edited by Roland Faber and Andrew Goffey (NY: Bloomsbury, 2014) available…Continue

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Postmetaphysical Thinking II

by Jurgen Habermas‘There is no alternative to postmetaphysical thinking’: this statement, made by…Continue

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"At this point it's just summarizing one's chosen thread. Later developments might include new dialogues or other things."
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"Can you share some details please on the initiative and the work involved? Thanks"
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Edwyrd theurj Burj replied to Layman Pascal's discussion INTEGRAL ANTI-CAPITALISM cont'd.
"I learned polemics from some of the best, including KenniLingam. ;)"
Nov 2
Edwyrd theurj Burj replied to DavidM58's discussion Integral Energy: Uniting Mulitple Perspectives on our Thermodynamic World
"Frank Visser's FB thread has a good discussion of this IW article. Following are some posts from that thread: Brian Eddy: I'm not really interested in critiquing KW on this anymore. I mentioned Wicken's work to him about 12 yrs.…"
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Edwyrd theurj Burj replied to Layman Pascal's discussion INTEGRAL ANTI-CAPITALISM cont'd.
"Hartmann's interview with Frank on how the Dimocrapic Party sold out to neoliberalism."
Oct 21
Edwyrd theurj Burj replied to DavidM58's discussion Integral Energy: Uniting Mulitple Perspectives on our Thermodynamic World
"Solar is the cheapest electricity ever in any technology. And this is the unsubsidized version."In April 2016, Bloomberg New Energy Finance (BNEF) reported that the record low unsubsidized solar energy price was 3.6 cents per kilowatt-hour…"
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Edwyrd theurj Burj replied to DavidM58's discussion Integral Energy: Uniting Mulitple Perspectives on our Thermodynamic World
"We are discussing this again on FB IPS in this thread. The topic of that thread is this article: "Peer to peer and the Commons - A matter, energy and thermodynamic perspective.""
Oct 7
Edwyrd theurj Burj replied to Edwyrd theurj Burj's discussion States, stages, the WC lattice and the fold
"I introduced this FB IPS thread in this  Ning post (and several following) from the Thompson thread. Some later posts from the FB thread are relevant here, following.  Here's another article on the neuroscience of the self. Like…"
Sep 27
Edwyrd theurj Burj replied to Edwyrd theurj Burj's discussion States, stages, the WC lattice and the fold
"And then there's postmetatheory as highlighted in the Introduction to "Metatheory in the 21st Century." I appreciate that Tom Murray's last chapter was valued for 'prepositioning' metatheory itself, something…"
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Edwyrd theurj Burj replied to Edwyrd theurj Burj's discussion States, stages, the WC lattice and the fold
"Great paper  at the 2015 ITC conference: "Gebser's structures of consciousness and somatic development." It reinforces what I've discussed at length in this thread. We need to fully integrate previous structures but we…"
Sep 22
Edwyrd theurj Burj replied to Edwyrd theurj Burj's discussion From Bacteria to Bach and Back: The Evolution of Minds by Daniel Dennett
"I also found this interesting blog post on the relationship between memes and metaphors."
Sep 16
Edwyrd theurj Burj replied to Edwyrd theurj Burj's discussion From Bacteria to Bach and Back: The Evolution of Minds by Daniel Dennett
"There's also a FB thread on this. Glenn Gaasland commented: So with Dennett, he has his definition of "mind", and sees it largely in terms of its manifested properties which we can also relate to our own daily existence. Dennetts…"
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Edwyrd theurj Burj replied to Edwyrd theurj Burj's discussion From Bacteria to Bach and Back: The Evolution of Minds by Daniel Dennett
"It occurred to me that memes are a lot like frames as Lakoff describes them. Lakoff has done extensive cognitive scientific work on schemas, metaphors and frames. Check out this lengthy article in Frontiers in Human Neuroscience, 2014; 8: 958,…"
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Edwyrd theurj Burj replied to Edwyrd theurj Burj's discussion From Bacteria to Bach and Back: The Evolution of Minds by Daniel Dennett
"There has been hot and at times rancorous debates in the scientific community about the existence of cultural memes ever since Dawkins proposed them. And Dennett expands on them in his new book. But can we scientifically measure them? See…"
Sep 16
Edwyrd theurj Burj replied to Edwyrd theurj Burj's discussion From Bacteria to Bach and Back: The Evolution of Minds by Daniel Dennett
"Not saying I agree or disagree with him, but he does bring science to the discussion. From the wiki bio: "Daniel Clement Dennett III (born March 28, 1942) is an American philosopher, writer, and cognitive scientist whose research centers on the…"
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From Bacteria to Bach and Back: The Evolution of Minds by Daniel Dennett

Google talk on his new book, From Bacteria to Bach and Back: The Evolution of Minds. The blurb:"How did we come to have minds? For centuries, this question has intrigued psychologists, physicists, poets, and philosophers, who have wondered how the human mind developed its unrivaled ability to create, imagine, and explain. Disciples of Darwin have long aspired to explain how consciousness, language, and culture could have appeared through natural selection, blazing promising trails that tend,…See More
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At 7:53am on November 18, 2017, Neelesh Marik said…

Can you share some details please on the initiative and the work involved? Thanks

At 6:27pm on September 27, 2010, Balder said…
LOL, hmm, I like the sound of that. I don't think so. Just was checking out what they're up to. Seems like it's pretty basic, not really touching much of what we explore here (that I can tell from the discussion).
At 6:21pm on September 27, 2010, Balder said…
There's an interfaith ministry program in New York called One Spirit that has recently opened a program to train people to be "integral spiritual mentors and ministers," led by Lynne Feldman and Joanne Ruben. There was a webinar today on this, which is just winding up.
At 2:08pm on March 26, 2010, shaman sun said…
Would be happy to discuss Gebser, thank you for the link! I'll post something up shortly.
At 2:26pm on March 24, 2010, Lol said…
no more so than anyone having an attachment to 'the end of enlightenment', or to the theory of hierarchical complexity ; ) ...no, i guess i'm trying to see if the state of dzogchen can be regarded differently, as something other than a metaphysical, transcendental 'given' -- i can't see any 'absolute giveness' inherent in the idea of infinite potentiality manifesting out of openess.
At 1:07pm on March 24, 2010, Lol said…
thanks for the link to the transpersonal psychology thread, and it's good to be talking about this with you now, because i wasn't able to raise this at the time. your posts then quoting Capriles were in reference to the pre-trans fallacy, and on having a look at the time at Beyond Mind 2, i came across the part i quoted in my previous message, which at the time made me think of your premise that the so called primordial or non-dual state (rigpa) was nothing more than, as you concisely put it, the state of pre-reflexive awareness integrated with the later ego. attempting to put jargon aside as much as possible, the dzogchen teaching distinguishes between the 'base-of-all' consciousness (kun.zhi nam.shes, a la yogachara, which doesn't automatically imply being present to/in rigpa -- i.e. one can rest in a half-asleep state of a base level of awareness without being in "instant presence") and the 'state of dzogchen', which is the inseparability of kun.zhi (here a different kind/meaning of 'kun.zhi') and rigpa. i'm hoping we don't end up again simply agreeing to differ...i'm wondering rather if you might consider that the kind of half-asleep awareness we can have when meditating, which can be running on automatic, is itself not apart from the ego - in fact the self/ego might be distractedly musing on something within this drowsy state - but from the point of view of the dzogchen teaching it is not the "instant presence" of (or being "instantly present in") the so called non-dual state. kind regards, best wishes.
At 2:53pm on March 23, 2010, Lol said…
hi theurj...can't find the relevant threads/posts now, but vis a vis your proposition that the so called natural/non-dual state is nothing more than the baseline, zero level of hierarchical complexity (my words not yours, as i can't quote you directly, but i'm hoping you'll accept them as adequately capturing your intended meaning), what do you think of the notion that this baseline/zero level might be better represented by "...the state known as base-of-all or kunzhi (kun gzhi) … as manifest when one cozily remains in the experience of the inner luminosity of dang (gdangs) energy known as tingsel (gting gsal)24 without reGnizing this luminosity (a reGnition that would turn it into an instance of the dharmakaya)" (Capriles: Beyond Mind 2 p.5), rather than the so called non-dual state of "instant presence" itself?
At 3:23pm on March 20, 2010, Joseph said…
Hi Edward

I just went back into an email you sent me from 2 years ago and requested to join the KW meetup group. So I haven't been yet but hope to check it out soon.

joseph
At 4:11pm on March 18, 2010, Mary W. said…
Ningbat: LOL!
At 3:34pm on March 18, 2010, Mascha said…
Hi again, Edward. :D
 
 
 
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