I am outsourcing this discussion from the "Obama: Messiah of the world?" thread.

 

All postmetaphysical musing about the End of the World as We Know it are invited. Don't be shy! Share your most embarrassing beliefs and most obscure mystical Intuitions! Fun Fun Fun!

 

For a start,a Zizek quote:

 

"Slavoj Žižek claims that we are heading towards disaster, “an apocalyptic zero-point”. Signs of the coming catastrophe include environmental despoliation, genetic-engineering technology that may “affect the very definition of humanity”, major economic imbalances (Žižek mentions intellectual property and disputes over scarce natural resources as examples), and the emergence of apartheid regimes in places like Dubai."

 

Following Lacan's point that "we know it, but we don't believe it", Z. uses Kuebler-Rosses phases of grief as a diagnostical system for apocalypse denial: whi phase are you on?

1. denial 2. anger 3. bargaining 4. depression 5. acceptance

 

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Zizeks best advice for us: Assume that the Catastrophe is inevitable, then start today with actions to counter it. In doing so, there is a however tiny chance that something else, something new might happen. Is this not worth the try, no, compadres?

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From the Barack Obama thread:

we are in deep shit, and it gets deeper every day now. The Fukushima Situation is still out of control, it looks like it's gonna be worse than Chernobyl if it is not already.

 

The Lybia Inervention is a gigantic mistake, and once more it's Barack "Nobel Peace Price" Obama who does it. Shame on him. Yes, He really has no choice, the Isreal Lobby presses him to it. They must be dead afraid from this whole avalanche of revoloutions going on. Once the turmoil reaches Iran, the powder keg will start to burn and the Final Countdown will be not far away.

 

to panick is of no help. but to downplay the drama is neither. what we need is a postmetaphysical discussion of the coming Judgement Day. What kind of Event will take place? what preparations can be done? WIll there be a "Judgement" of some sorts? What role play the UFOs in all this? what about the singularity? and so on. xo

 

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There are certain prohpecies and omen and signs. For those who have eyes to see, for those who have ears to heer.

 

This is from my 2009 Integral Life Blog:

http://integrallife.com/member/christophe-witz/blog/breaking-news-t...

 

From the article:

"In world politics something will happen in and around 2010. At that time the world powers will threaten to destroy each other. 


Between 2010 and 2012, the whole world will get polarized and prepare for the ultimate dooms day. Heavy political maneuvers and negotiations will take place with little progress. 


In 2012, the world will start plunging into a total destructive nuclear war.


And at that time something remarkable will happen, says, Buddhist monk of Tibet. Supernatural divine powers will intervene. The destiny of the world is not to self-destruct at this time. 


Scientific interpretation of the monks’ statements makes it evident that the Extra Terrestrial powers are watching us every step of the way. They will intervene in 2012 and save the world from self-destruction. "

 

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Still in other words, we need to think bigger about our current situation. We will reach a zero point, a singularity, new challenges in economics, world power politics, genetic engineering/ human augmentation, natural and technolgical disasters, and a dozen other shit we cant even imagine right now. How are we to deal with all this?

 

If we follow Hegel, we know that Aeons have beginnings, and endings. I find it a possibility that there is a judgement involved between a particular beginning and end of a specific aeon. Wha will ours be like? The sixties rocked, yes absolutely, but if we follow Wilber, the new aeon will rock tenfold. TENFOLD you bastards do you digg this.

 

Finally, I'll share my own humble vision of the coming singularity. In my imagination, and after contemplating about Deleuze, Velikovsky, the Thunderbolt Project, UFO research, prophecies of different mystical traditions, poetry of insane poets, The Kurt Cobain Diaries, Finnegans Wake, Radioheads 'Kid A', the Oedipus Myth, the Dictatorship of Art, Hypnosis, Charles Fort, Buster Keaton silent movies, Anchovi Pizza, Nintendo Karaoke station, adidas power shower gel, dental floss and so on and so on.

 

WHat? o yes, my vision. I think the earth will be shaken in its foundations. the sky will fall, the oceans will rise. strange lights will appear on the horizon, glowing from nuclear radiation. Nine dragons will emerge from outer space, and the promised hero will come and fight the dragons in a fight to death. the outcome is unknown.

 

xo

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my most embarrasing belief is the belief that 2012 is a crock of sheize, and on january 1, 2013, i'm gonna hafta baitch slap all those yutzes i know who put a moment's credence into that ridiculous fantasy. :-)

aha.

You're in Phase 1, Denial.

Whatever we call the coming Event, the coming glitch-storm technopalypse, Gaia's shuddering guffaw that shook her parasitic children off the small of her back, this is the soundtrack:

 

 

 

If you listen closely, you'll hear, out of the wasteland of concrete and metal and twisted circuit boards of our civilization, the soul of Ray Kurzweil struggling to reclothe itself in wire and silicon, electroshocking itself to life.

 

And when finally he opens his LED eyes, there will be Wilborg smiling, the Mecha-Messiah, the Grand Inclusitor, ready to plug his tinny little soul at last into the MACHINE.

denial? on the contrary, your consciousness simply hasn't been raised to the next level yet. :-) see ya in 2013. hahahaha.

From "Special Correspondent," N.K. Subramanium:

 

In 2012, the world will start plunging into a total destructive nuclear war.

And at that time something remarkable will happen, says, Buddhist monk of Tibet. Supernatural divine powers will intervene. The destiny of the world is not to self-destruct at this time. 

Scientific interpretation of the monks’ statements makes it evident that the Extra Terrestrial powers are watching us every step of the way. They will intervene in 2012 and save the world from self-destruction. 

Haha. Where is this taken from? It's too far fetched, and poorly written, for the National Enquirer. Who, by the way, is "Buddhist monk"? Is that a proper name? We read, "Scientific interpretation... makes it evident..." Gee, what kind of "scientific interpretation" could our intrepid journalist be referring to? Tea leaf reading? This ain't "postmetaphysical." Sounds more like something written for people who have gone off their meds.

Yeah alright you killjoy. you caught me inmidst my most blatant metphysical joussance phantasma.

and yes, the "India Daily" does not exactly qualify as a reliable scientific source. but hey, every Fortean Investigator knows that you can find the most incredibilest news stories in the Yellow Press or in the "Nature" Nagazine. But yaaaaaaahh I know it's all green blurb and doesnt count... thank KW for inventing the preTransPhallacy. Were would we be without it.

You could be right about me being not ready for the next consciousness stage. I really need to find someone to get me laid in order to forget about these radioactive dragons in my dreams... and yes I probabbly am wrong about them numbers - its not nine dragons, its more like, maybe seven or eight. I got to redo my Kabbalihstic calculations all over again...

 

Thank you Balder for that beautiful soundtrack for my downfall.

 

PS!!!

 

My invitation for your own silly Judgement-day fantasies still stands... remember this thread as a haven for all of them, be them postmetaphysical or not...

Unfortunately mine is already in progress: the conservatives are regressing the US back to the days that make Charles Dicken's novels seem idyllic by comparison.

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