Sucker Punch

[Edward theurj Berge]

Andrew: i new something was up with suckerpunch... http://vigilantcitizen.com/

Andrew's comment in the QM thread about this movie and the related link led me to creating this thread. The linked review is excellent. When I first saw the movie, not being aware of the symbolism described, I had the same gut reaction, that it was more a film about escape into fantasy in the wake of horrific abuse than about gaining freedom from said abuse. That the fantasies were about "freedom" only highlighted even more the manipulation and abuse of master/slave economic conditions, much like Americans are sold the purposely created illusion of personal freedom while being manipulated to break their backs and souls each day in their denigrating jobs for the enrichment of the owners.

The review then leads us down the rabbit hole of Monarch mind control where we get into CIA and Illuminati conspiracy theories. Much like the review of the movie itself it's difficult to tell here where fact and fiction meet. At the heart of this is the actual MK Ultra program, which got mention in the recent satirical film Men Who Stare at Goats, or rather the book upon which the film was loosely based. I do not doubt that the review is accurate in that the filmmakers' intentions indeed used the standard symbols of the program, or that it was an allegory about the program. But with much conspiracy theory again the lines between fact and fantasy are so blurred, where those that expose the crime might in fact be the victims of the programming itself. Their paranoid delusions so exaggerate the program so as to be ridiculed, thereby diffusing attention to the very real and insidious program itself. Thus the programming goes on in modern guise, used by the likes of our real task-masters, the moneyed elite, selling the American Dream to the slaves who must believe it lest they face the awful reality of their mundane and meaningless existence.

 

[Edward theurj Berge]

Also recall Klein's documentary about the Shock Doctrine, wherein she also references the torture programs as being the exemplar for totalitarian economic manipulation techniques. The "reality" is not so far-fetched.

[Edward theurj Berge]

My point was that such information manipulation is indeed going on but a more likely scenario is that depicted by Naomi Klein than reading in delusions about the mysterious Illuminati. I think it is entirely likely that the real perpetrators (like Wall Street and the Fed) are behind the manipulated smokescreen of conspiracy stories like the Illuminati to discredit legitimate investigations.

Speaking of Murdock, recall the video of his testimony in England and how the "big story" is his getting a pie in his face. One astute commentator noted that it was likely Murdock's own set-up, knowing it would defuse the focus on his testimony and make him a more humane character. And again the stupid media falls for it and indeed focuses on the pie and not the criminal activity.

[Edward theurj Berge]

Along the same lines, the HBO movie Too Big to Fail, while accurately depicting some of the historical facts, leaves out so much more and ends up turning Henry Paulson into a hero. The author of the book, Sorkin, got access to a lot of the information but he also bought the spin wholesale. Matt Taibbi, for example, makes plain that Paulson, formerly and not coincidentally of Golden Sachs, while there was one of those in direct charge of the very things that created the crisis. His actual role as Treasury Secretary was to perpetuate the very system he had a hand in creating. So he bails out the banks while consolidating them into even larger institutions that are now bigger than too big to fail: They are the fricken Illuminati!

[Edward theurj Berge]

Here's a bit from a Klein interview on torture and the shock doctrine, relevant to the excellent review of Sucker Punch referenced above:

"I look at torture is as a metaphor for disaster capitalism. Disaster capitalism is an attempt to push through policies in the chaos and disorientation that follow a disaster -- policies that wouldn't stand a chance during normal, non-disastrous circumstances.... What I argue is that this attempt to take advantage of the window of opportunity opened up by crisis has some uncomfortable similarities to the techniques for psychological torture laid out in declassified CIA interrogation manuals, which I quote in the book.... I want to stress that I am not in any way suggesting that a crisis like that [9-11] was deliberately created in order to induce the state of shock, but I do argue that once the shock occurred it was deliberately deepened."

Now we know plenty of conspiracy buffs that are convinced that 9-11 was an inside job. Bracketing that for the moment, it is simply uncontestable that the financial crisis of '08 was deliberately orchestrated by the big banks, who knew full well that their behavior would cause a collapse and in fact bet on it and won big time. They did so also knowing that they would be bailed out because they had the King of the Illuminati in the Treasury. Additionally they knew full well, as Friedman did before them, of what Klein speaks, that the ensuing crises would plunge the rest of us into such trauma that we'd be way too sheepish to fight back, that we'd fear losing what little shitty job and pay we had or face unemployment that could realistically lead to our deaths. This was most certainly and purposefully enacted by the power brokers using the very techniques Sucker Punch and Klein reveal from MK Ultra.

However they didn't count on Wisconsin, not realizing that when you kick a dog that's already beaten into submission you get bitten. And we are really biting back and will not stop until things are made right.

[Edward theurj Berge]

I like the linked piece by Jeffrey Sachs above. Interestingly, perhaps even synchronously (or even conspiratorially?), Sachs is mentioned in the wiki on the Shock Doctrine thus:

"Free-market reform in Bolivia was possible due to a combination of pre-existing economic crises and the charisma of Jeffrey Sachs."

The link to Sachs wiki says this:

"Sachs became known for his role as an adviser to Eastern European and developing country governments in the implementation of so-called economic shock therapy during the transition from communism to a market system or during periods of economic crisis. Some of his recommendations have been considered controversial."

See the link on economic shock therapy for more.