Integral was too expensive so I bought into Green: Part 1

The first of three videos exploring retreats, questions, and green

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Comment by Edward theurj Berge on June 7, 2012 at 5:54pm

It's time for them to examine healthy green+ economic systems instead of just bitching. Perhaps they should see our threads on this: progressive economics, eco transitions, integral global capitalism, Jeremy Rifkin.

Comment by Balder on June 7, 2012 at 5:07pm

Parts 2 and 3

Comment by Balder on March 25, 2012 at 10:57pm

The critique is probably original to the Trollz, but who knows ...?  Maybe they have read your thread(s) here or your blog?  Certainly you've made the same point on multiple occasions, that Integral marketing and the mainstream Integral business model appears to be based on outmoded (pre-Green, pre-P2P) forms.  I had listened to the video with only half an ear this morning, and had thought I might have some differences with them to address, but listening again this evening, I don't have much to criticize...except that such critiques would carry more force if they were based on consistent practices, rather than on single events (which might not be representative of the full range of opportunities a teacher presents).  In Cohen's case, with the stories about him extracting large sums from his students (sometimes via emotional manipulation and coercion, according to some stories), there does appear to be a consistent pattern...  With Bonder, I'm not sure.  But I recall critiquing him on Integral Naked years ago for his very slimy "Matter Magic" service (which mysteriously was removed from his website after my post generated a lot of traffic)....

As for Bonnitta's Magellan Courses, I agree with them: I've been a lurker in Bonnitta's and Joel's classes, and they've been excellent (and exceptionally rich, for free offerings).

Comment by Balder on March 25, 2012 at 4:16pm

Oh, yes, sorry!  I should have clarified that in the description when I posted the video.  I agree with their general criticism; I'll comment more specifically later on the particular details of their critique.

Comment by Edward theurj Berge on March 25, 2012 at 4:14pm

Ah, integraltrollz are the creators and here's their Beams and Struts Intro.

Comment by Edward theurj Berge on March 25, 2012 at 4:11pm

I know the creators used xtranormal for the video but who are they, who wrote this dialogue?

Comment by Edward theurj Berge on March 25, 2012 at 4:04pm

Holy shit! A video after my own heart reminiscent of the "integral global capitalism" thread and its predecessor threads.

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