Tom on "Quantum Enlightenment" - Integral Post-Metaphysical Spirituality2024-03-29T13:17:01Zhttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/forum/topics/tom-on-quantum-enlightenment?commentId=5301756%3AComment%3A30302&xg_source=activity&feed=yes&xn_auth=noHe favors the many worlds int…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2014-08-15:5301756:Comment:578032014-08-15T13:52:40.861ZEdward theurj Bergehttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/theurj
<p>He favors the many worlds interpretation over the Copenhagen, which coincides with our discussions elsewhere on monism and pluralism.</p>
<p>He favors the many worlds interpretation over the Copenhagen, which coincides with our discussions elsewhere on monism and pluralism.</p> Why QM is an embarrassment to…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2014-08-15:5301756:Comment:575792014-08-15T13:35:30.295ZEdward theurj Bergehttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/theurj
<p>Why QM is an embarrassment to science:</p>
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<p>Why QM is an embarrassment to science:</p>
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</p> Tom, three quotes from the pr…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2012-02-23:5301756:Comment:400242012-02-23T10:46:52.132ZLolhttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/marigpa
<p>Tom, three quotes from the presentation grab me:</p>
<p>"In France, Dr. Phillippe Guillemant (CNRS) has proposed that the future is already realised and in transformation under the influence of our observations and intentions."</p>
<p>"Synchronicities are caused by a << double causality >>: our intentions cause effects in the future that become the future causes of present effects."</p>
<p>"Consciousness traverses associations - thus generating the mind's impression of space and…</p>
<p>Tom, three quotes from the presentation grab me:</p>
<p>"In France, Dr. Phillippe Guillemant (CNRS) has proposed that the future is already realised and in transformation under the influence of our observations and intentions."</p>
<p>"Synchronicities are caused by a << double causality >>: our intentions cause effects in the future that become the future causes of present effects."</p>
<p>"Consciousness traverses associations - thus generating the mind's impression of space and time."</p>
<p>I like the almost palpable sense of infinite information conveyed in this talk.</p>
<p>The historical Buddha is said to have said that even a buddha wouldn't be able to explicate (viz some kind of linear unravelling) the intricacies of karma, it is so complex. With infinite information present everywhere and no 'where' at once, trying to join dots just doesn't cut it.</p>
<p>In the conventional buddhist explanation of karma, there is talk of primary causes and secondary causes, with the analogy given of a seed as primary cause, and warmth, soil, moisture etc. as the secondary causes for the seed to ripen. Karma of course literally means action, action with accompanying intention. My preferred way to relate to karma is as "karmic vision", where vision refers to our experience via all of the senses. Guillemant's ideas concerning synchronicities to me brings an image of echoes, as if of something ahead. If consciousness does traverse associations, generating the impression of space and time, we can see these associations as being derived from impicit information. Synchronicities stand out because they appear to us as somewhat uncanny, but perhaps 'mundane' secondary causes as they manifest are echoes no less, and we filter our karmic vision from out of an infinite silent cacophony.</p> I asked just because it surpr…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2011-12-22:5301756:Comment:384102011-12-22T23:44:36.072ZBalderhttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/BruceAlderman
<p>I asked just because it surprised me how much that practice mirrors Tantric yoga, at least from your brief description of it. But, for our times, I also am more concerned with a transformative recontextualization of such practices. </p>
<p>I asked just because it surprised me how much that practice mirrors Tantric yoga, at least from your brief description of it. But, for our times, I also am more concerned with a transformative recontextualization of such practices. </p> It seems moot which came firs…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2011-12-22:5301756:Comment:384092011-12-22T23:37:32.549ZEdward theurj Bergehttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/theurj
<p>It seems moot which came first but perhaps both traditions came from the cradle of civilization in Persia? Recall some of the Tibetan history we went through elsewhere, noting this origin. And see <a href="http://www.folklore.ee/folklore/vol17/magic.pdf" target="_blank">this document</a>, noting western magic coming from that direction.</p>
<p>I brought this up because of the vibrational aspect in the video, higher frequencies producing more complex forms. And that there has been knowledge…</p>
<p>It seems moot which came first but perhaps both traditions came from the cradle of civilization in Persia? Recall some of the Tibetan history we went through elsewhere, noting this origin. And see <a href="http://www.folklore.ee/folklore/vol17/magic.pdf" target="_blank">this document</a>, noting western magic coming from that direction.</p>
<p>I brought this up because of the vibrational aspect in the video, higher frequencies producing more complex forms. And that there has been knowledge of this around for a long, long time. However it's been dressed up in metaphysical and mythical garb, so how do we perhaps <em>transformatively recontexualize</em> it, as Anderson says <a href="http://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/forum/topics/what-is-critical-integral-theory?page=1&commentId=5301756%3AComment%3A37793&x=1#5301756Comment37793" target="_self">here</a>.</p> Or Tantra. I wonder which ca…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2011-12-22:5301756:Comment:383122011-12-22T22:58:38.894ZBalderhttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/BruceAlderman
<p>Or Tantra. I wonder which came first, Indian Tantra or Western magic? I'm thinking the former.</p>
<p>Or Tantra. I wonder which came first, Indian Tantra or Western magic? I'm thinking the former.</p> From that work I developed a…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2011-12-22:5301756:Comment:383112011-12-22T14:17:02.395ZEdward theurj Bergehttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/theurj
<p>From that work I developed a color-sound-visualization ritual using the 22 Hebrew letters, which themselves correspond to particular notes and colors. The letters are divided into the 3 Mothers, the 7 doubles and the 12 singles. The Mothers refer to the 3 primal elements of air, fire and water, the 7 doubles to the 7 planets and the 12 singles to the astrological signs. Each also has a correspondence in the human body. The Mothers are more general areas, like air the head, water the…</p>
<p>From that work I developed a color-sound-visualization ritual using the 22 Hebrew letters, which themselves correspond to particular notes and colors. The letters are divided into the 3 Mothers, the 7 doubles and the 12 singles. The Mothers refer to the 3 primal elements of air, fire and water, the 7 doubles to the 7 planets and the 12 singles to the astrological signs. Each also has a correspondence in the human body. The Mothers are more general areas, like air the head, water the mid-torso, fire the genitals. The 7 doubles are the chakras, the 12 singles correspond to the astrological body areas. So one chants the Hebrew letter in the corresponding tone, focusing the vibration in the relevant body area while visualizing it bathed in the related color. Magic.</p> "In the beginning was the Wor…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2011-12-22:5301756:Comment:381112011-12-22T13:43:42.915ZEdward theurj Bergehttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/theurj
<p>"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." John 1:1</p>
<p>Since y'all are getting metaphysical perhaps you should try this tract by one of my former mentors, Paul Foster Case's "<a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/7022551/case-paul-foster-bota-sound-and-color-1931" target="_blank">Correlation of Sound and Color</a>."</p>
<p>He reveals heretofore esoteric secrets "so that prepared minds may use color and sound...for the development of a well-rounded…</p>
<p>"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." John 1:1</p>
<p>Since y'all are getting metaphysical perhaps you should try this tract by one of my former mentors, Paul Foster Case's "<a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/7022551/case-paul-foster-bota-sound-and-color-1931" target="_blank">Correlation of Sound and Color</a>."</p>
<p>He reveals heretofore esoteric secrets "so that prepared minds may use color and sound...for the development of a well-rounded consciousness, for the liberation of the profounder powers of subconsciousness in works of that true Magic of Light which from time immemorial has been called theurgy*."</p>
<p>* From whence my screen name originates.</p> Exactly, Thomas, and Sorce Th…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2011-12-22:5301756:Comment:383082011-12-22T00:26:27.797ZJoel Morrisonhttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/JoelMorrison
<p>Exactly, Thomas, and Sorce Theory is essentially a cymatics in a continuous fluid dynamics. It's the perfect analogy and the root of complexity, which is why it works.</p>
<p>Exactly, Thomas, and Sorce Theory is essentially a cymatics in a continuous fluid dynamics. It's the perfect analogy and the root of complexity, which is why it works.</p> Very cool. Have you heard of…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2011-12-21:5301756:Comment:382022011-12-21T21:00:37.778ZBalderhttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/BruceAlderman
<p>Very cool. Have you heard of the <a href="http://cymascope.com/cyma_research/index.html" target="_blank">cymascope</a>, which is a technology for making sound visible? I think Kerry, who sometimes used to post here, was once involved in trying to develop something like this.</p>
<p>Regarding the nonlinear transitions between configurations, and the apparent chaos zones in between, I like to view therapy and meditation in these terms -- both of which can take one far from equilibrium and to…</p>
<p>Very cool. Have you heard of the <a href="http://cymascope.com/cyma_research/index.html" target="_blank">cymascope</a>, which is a technology for making sound visible? I think Kerry, who sometimes used to post here, was once involved in trying to develop something like this.</p>
<p>Regarding the nonlinear transitions between configurations, and the apparent chaos zones in between, I like to view therapy and meditation in these terms -- both of which can take one far from equilibrium and to a bifurcation point, where new order will spontaneously emerge. Guenther develops this idea well in his texts on Dzogchen and systems theory.</p>