The Nietzschean Facebook - Integral Post-Metaphysical Spirituality2024-03-29T05:30:00Zhttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/forum/topics/the-nietzschean-facebook?commentId=5301756%3AComment%3A54157&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=no"Backdoor Teen Mom" was widel…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2014-02-12:5301756:Comment:541572014-02-12T17:05:52.374ZLayman Pascalhttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/LaymanPascal
<p>"Backdoor Teen Mom" was widely considered to be the worst porno film of 2013 CE. That's almost intriguing. It is an anal-focused feature made at the behest of reality TV star Farrah Abraham (the widowed breakout star of the TV show "Teen Moms"). Presumably she felt this would take her "career" to the next level because she designed it to seem like it was a "leaked sex tape". It is awkward, unsexy, and her famous male porn co-star is disturbing flaccid for most of the show.</p>
<p>While…</p>
<p>"Backdoor Teen Mom" was widely considered to be the worst porno film of 2013 CE. That's almost intriguing. It is an anal-focused feature made at the behest of reality TV star Farrah Abraham (the widowed breakout star of the TV show "Teen Moms"). Presumably she felt this would take her "career" to the next level because she designed it to seem like it was a "leaked sex tape". It is awkward, unsexy, and her famous male porn co-star is disturbing flaccid for most of the show.</p>
<p>While "Tosh.O" is the "America's Funniest Home Videos" of the internet -- examining, mocking and often getting involved with the most obscene, self-destructive, bizarre and surrealistic viral videos.</p>
<p>I am not familiar with "Sex and Zen" but I'll check it out.</p>
<p>Nietzsche would, of course, argue that most "spiritual" movies are anything but that -- quasi-Christian, populist, sentimentalist arousal of vague and metaphysical faux-inspiration. So most movies which would make a list of that kind would strike him as both unhealthy and decidedly anti-spiritual. Yet from among the films you mention, the dry, classical and visionary expanse of Samsara would clearly be preferred over the mawkish herd-fantasies of What Dreams May Come and the ponderous, forced profundity of Cloud Atlas. These latter two feature many of elements which N. diagnosed as pathological in Wagner's work.</p>
<p></p> I'm impressed with your knowl…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2014-02-12:5301756:Comment:542182014-02-12T16:48:51.926ZBalderhttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/BruceAlderman
<p>I'm impressed with your knowledge of American decadence! I am happy to confess that I haven't heard of the other shows you mention.</p>
<p>Honey Boo Boo aside, your list above is pretty entertaining. (I don't notice any Wilber / Integral crowd productions or players yet).</p>
<p>How do you think the Nietzsch would vote on the two Sex and Zen movies? </p>
<p>How about his ranking of "spiritual" movies? Zen Noir, Cloud Atlas, Samsara, What Dreams May Come ...</p>
<p>I'm impressed with your knowledge of American decadence! I am happy to confess that I haven't heard of the other shows you mention.</p>
<p>Honey Boo Boo aside, your list above is pretty entertaining. (I don't notice any Wilber / Integral crowd productions or players yet).</p>
<p>How do you think the Nietzsch would vote on the two Sex and Zen movies? </p>
<p>How about his ranking of "spiritual" movies? Zen Noir, Cloud Atlas, Samsara, What Dreams May Come ...</p> Given the relativity of Likes…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2014-02-12:5301756:Comment:541532014-02-12T16:15:34.797ZLayman Pascalhttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/LaymanPascal
<p>Given the relativity of Likes & Dislikes we are always facing the issue of contextualization. For example, in the category of lame-American-pseudo-reality-exploitation, he would probably prefer "Here Comes Honey Boo Boo" to Farrah Abraham's "Backdoor Teen Mom". However that does not place Honey Boo Boo very highly.</p>
<p>From the Nietzschean standpoint there is a tremendous value in (a) having all forms of decadence reach their nadir with a good conscience (b) experimentally delighting…</p>
<p>Given the relativity of Likes & Dislikes we are always facing the issue of contextualization. For example, in the category of lame-American-pseudo-reality-exploitation, he would probably prefer "Here Comes Honey Boo Boo" to Farrah Abraham's "Backdoor Teen Mom". However that does not place Honey Boo Boo very highly.</p>
<p>From the Nietzschean standpoint there is a tremendous value in (a) having all forms of decadence reach their nadir with a good conscience (b) experimentally delighting in the caged ugliness of grotesque exemplars (c) producing balanced emotional states -- even if that balance is between mild amusement and mild horror.</p>
<p>However to be flat, pushy, bloated, lacking in all capacity for conscious irony or nimble gestures of the soul, drowned in the toxic national dreamworld of a culture that has lost its way... these are obviously opposed even to healthy self-affirmation of the ignorant and obnoxious.</p>
<p>Looking for something that more closely approximates an apotheosis or hearty glorification of seemingly degenerate Americana, I'm sure Mr. Nietzsche would encourage us towards the offensive carnival of Tosh.O rather than the poisonous toad-world of Honey Boo Boo.</p> What everyone is wondering is…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2014-02-12:5301756:Comment:539932014-02-12T01:25:13.249ZBalderhttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/BruceAlderman
<p>What everyone is wondering is, Where does he stand on Honey Boo-Boo?</p>
<p>What everyone is wondering is, Where does he stand on Honey Boo-Boo?</p>