Participatory Spirituality for the 21st Century
Herein you will find
an experimental listing of
LIKES (+) / DISLIKES (-)
I have been compiling and analyzing and feeling into Nietzsche's work on tone, mood & aesthetics. When read in depth (and according to his many suggestions about how to read his work) he appears as a great prophet of planetary-scale, post-pluralistic embodied postmetaphysical spirituality in an evolutionary, peak-experience integrating context. Thus his suggestions are of special relevance to integral and meta-integral endeavors.
He demands three things of his readers -- and these demands operate as gargoyles and decoys to waylay those who approach with too much sentimentality or old-school intellectual habits. These demands?
Firstly to enter perspectives without becoming trapped by them. Secondly, to be affirmative and convivial (i.e. to actively presume that concepts are not laden with conventional social associations. He would probably use terms like "faggot" and "nigger" a lot if he was writing today -- requiring the reader to do the work of separating the energy and structure from the popular moral connotations). Thirdly, to give equal weight to concepts and tone/rhythm/mood. Perhaps even to understand these as mysteriously the same thing -- rooted in the emergent bio-psychology, energetic sensitivity, deep ancestry and altitudinal tempo.
So I will be imaginatively updating this thread to provide an creative output for the sense I am developing of what N. was trying to specify about the tempo and aesthetic ethos appropriate to vision-logical worldspaces and healthy post-pluralistic civilization. I will try to put the affirmations and negations on roughly the same level to highlight their potential differences. Some are based directly upon his remarks and cultural analysis -- others are obviously highly speculative.
Please feel free to add, contest or inquire. I will be modifying this "opening post" as I go...
LIKES / DISLIKES
Brad Pitt in "Fight Club" / Brad Pit in "World War Z"
Full Metal Jacket / Platoon
Mozart / Beethoven
Bizet / Wagner
Star Wars / Return of the Jedi
Heraclitus / Socrates
Touch of Evil / Citizen Kane
Seinfeld / Friends
V.A.L.I.S. / Total Recall
Voltaire / Zola
Inside Amy Schumer / Ellen
Castro / Stalin
Caesar / Nero
Napoleon / Hitler
Depth / Purity
Conviviality / Devotion
Sensualists / Virgins
Tom Cruise in "Tropic Thunder" / Tom Cruise in "Top Gun"
TV's The Borgias / TV's The Tudors
Dianetics / Scientology
Marx Brothers / Three Stooges
Son House / Bob Marley
Jews / Germans
Classic TV Star Trek / Star Trek films
Lady Gaga / Taylor Swift
George Carlin / Bill Hicks
Norm MacDonald / Adam Sandler
Charlie Sheen / Two and a Half Men
Beatles / U2
Dylan / Joplin
David Lynch / James Cameron
Einstein / Bohr
Schrodinger / Heisenberg
Gurdjieff / Bahaullah
Osho / Krishnamurti
Adi Da / Ammaji
Catholics / Protestants
Accordion / Guitar
2001 / 2010
Breaking Bad / The Wire
Timothy Leary / Deepak Chopra
Maharshi / Maharishi
Good Europeans / Fatherlands
Reich / Freud
Obligatory Military Service / Pacifism
Mary Magdalene / Virgin Mary
Old Testament / New Testament
Rome / Judea
Jimmy Page / Eric Clapton
Mel Brooks' Blazing Saddles / Mel Brooks' Spaceballs
Bill O'Reilly / Glen Beck
War-Like Democrats / Sympathetic Republicans
Pentacostals / Jehovah's Witnesses
Aristophanes / Euripides
Gorillaz / Nickelback
Foucault / Derrida
Beastie Boys music / Beastie Boys singing
Stendhal / Rousseau
Waltz / Ballet
Manet / Monet
Religious Dali Paintings / Psychoanalytic Dali Paintings
Drug Legalization / Drug Abuse
Ghostbusters / Ghostbusters 2
Emperor Augustus / St. Paul
Jesus / St. Peter
Machiavelli / Mother Theresa
Hitchens / Dawkins
Lamarck / Darwin
Donovan / Cat Stevens
American Hustle / 12 Years a Slave
Music of Beck / Music of Jeff Beck
Nancy Sinatra / Patsy Cline
Hafiz / Rumi
Chogyam Trungpa / Thich Nhat Hanh
Hannibal Lecter / Charles Manson
Eagles / CCR
The Good, the Bad & the Ugly / Dirty Harry
Sex, Ecology, Spirituality / The Essential Ken Wilber
Grace & Grit / Boomeritis
David Deida / John Gray
Hakuin / Dogen
Anaximander / Epicurus
Jimmy Carr / Dylan Moran
Lee Lozowick / Robert Augustus Masters
Byron Katie / Carolyn Myss
Jon Stewart / Stephen Colbert
Alpine Climates / Swamps
Soup After Meals / Soup Before Meals
Drunkenness / Drinking
Martin Luther's German prose / Martin Luther's philosophy
Quentin Tarantino / Spike Lee
Ken Wilber's commanding instincts / Ken Wilber's literary instincts
Shakespeare / Dickens
Paglia / Dworkin
Suzuki Roshi / DT Suzuki
Hearty Pessimists / Sentimental Optimists
Reason is Diverse / Reason is one truth among many
Wolfram / Zuckerberg
to be continued...
What everyone is wondering is, Where does he stand on Honey Boo-Boo?
Given the relativity of Likes & Dislikes we are always facing the issue of contextualization. For example, in the category of lame-American-pseudo-reality-exploitation, he would probably prefer "Here Comes Honey Boo Boo" to Farrah Abraham's "Backdoor Teen Mom". However that does not place Honey Boo Boo very highly.
From the Nietzschean standpoint there is a tremendous value in (a) having all forms of decadence reach their nadir with a good conscience (b) experimentally delighting in the caged ugliness of grotesque exemplars (c) producing balanced emotional states -- even if that balance is between mild amusement and mild horror.
However to be flat, pushy, bloated, lacking in all capacity for conscious irony or nimble gestures of the soul, drowned in the toxic national dreamworld of a culture that has lost its way... these are obviously opposed even to healthy self-affirmation of the ignorant and obnoxious.
Looking for something that more closely approximates an apotheosis or hearty glorification of seemingly degenerate Americana, I'm sure Mr. Nietzsche would encourage us towards the offensive carnival of Tosh.O rather than the poisonous toad-world of Honey Boo Boo.
I'm impressed with your knowledge of American decadence! I am happy to confess that I haven't heard of the other shows you mention.
Honey Boo Boo aside, your list above is pretty entertaining. (I don't notice any Wilber / Integral crowd productions or players yet).
How do you think the Nietzsch would vote on the two Sex and Zen movies?
How about his ranking of "spiritual" movies? Zen Noir, Cloud Atlas, Samsara, What Dreams May Come ...
"Backdoor Teen Mom" was widely considered to be the worst porno film of 2013 CE. That's almost intriguing. It is an anal-focused feature made at the behest of reality TV star Farrah Abraham (the widowed breakout star of the TV show "Teen Moms"). Presumably she felt this would take her "career" to the next level because she designed it to seem like it was a "leaked sex tape". It is awkward, unsexy, and her famous male porn co-star is disturbing flaccid for most of the show.
While "Tosh.O" is the "America's Funniest Home Videos" of the internet -- examining, mocking and often getting involved with the most obscene, self-destructive, bizarre and surrealistic viral videos.
I am not familiar with "Sex and Zen" but I'll check it out.
Nietzsche would, of course, argue that most "spiritual" movies are anything but that -- quasi-Christian, populist, sentimentalist arousal of vague and metaphysical faux-inspiration. So most movies which would make a list of that kind would strike him as both unhealthy and decidedly anti-spiritual. Yet from among the films you mention, the dry, classical and visionary expanse of Samsara would clearly be preferred over the mawkish herd-fantasies of What Dreams May Come and the ponderous, forced profundity of Cloud Atlas. These latter two feature many of elements which N. diagnosed as pathological in Wagner's work.