The Golden Dawn - Integral Post-Metaphysical Spirituality2024-03-28T20:23:49Zhttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/forum/topics/the-golden-dawn?commentId=5301756%3AComment%3A56861&feed=yes&xn_auth=noThe New Golden Dawn Ritual Ta…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2018-12-07:5301756:Comment:738272018-12-07T00:59:20.348ZEdward theurj Bergehttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/theurj
<p>The New Golden Dawn Ritual Tarot by the Ciceros is <a href="http://b-ok.cc/book/892002/db71b3" target="_blank" rel="noopener">here</a>. </p>
<p>The New Golden Dawn Ritual Tarot by the Ciceros is <a href="http://b-ok.cc/book/892002/db71b3" target="_blank" rel="noopener">here</a>. </p> Another of my Bibles from tha…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2016-12-15:5301756:Comment:670142016-12-15T20:58:35.749ZEdward theurj Bergehttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/theurj
<p>Another of my Bibles from that period: <em><a href="http://www.ebooks-on-cd.com/PDFs/Robert%20Wang%20-%20The%20Qabalistic%20Tarot.pdf" target="_blank">Qabalistic Tarot</a></em> by Robert Wang.</p>
<p>Another of my Bibles from that period: <em><a href="http://www.ebooks-on-cd.com/PDFs/Robert%20Wang%20-%20The%20Qabalistic%20Tarot.pdf" target="_blank">Qabalistic Tarot</a></em> by Robert Wang.</p> I tried it twice and was intr…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2014-06-21:5301756:Comment:568822014-06-21T01:05:29.733ZLayman Pascalhttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/LaymanPascal
<p>I tried it twice and was intrigued by the effects. I can see why it has aroused the interest of so many in the therapeutic community and, as I understand, the earlier worries about mild brain damage (shrinking of dendrites) turns out to be a side-effect mostly of dehydration rather than the drug. Alexander Shulgin who helped popularize MDMA and its analogues just recently passed away.</p>
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<p>I tried it twice and was intrigued by the effects. I can see why it has aroused the interest of so many in the therapeutic community and, as I understand, the earlier worries about mild brain damage (shrinking of dendrites) turns out to be a side-effect mostly of dehydration rather than the drug. Alexander Shulgin who helped popularize MDMA and its analogues just recently passed away.</p>
<p>Transmission ends...</p> I experimented with ecstasy i…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2014-06-21:5301756:Comment:569472014-06-21T01:01:12.168ZEdward theurj Bergehttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/theurj
<p>I experimented with ecstasy in the summer of '85 while I was attending a massage school with a psychological and human potential orientation, the <a href="http://www.ipsb.edu/" target="_blank">Institute of Psycho-Structural Balancing</a>.* In addition to massage and bodywork techniques we learned a lot about body psychology, engaged in a variety of meditative disciplines as well as alternative therapeutic-spiritual combos like Naranjo's work. The latter also incorporated ecstasy in his work…</p>
<p>I experimented with ecstasy in the summer of '85 while I was attending a massage school with a psychological and human potential orientation, the <a href="http://www.ipsb.edu/" target="_blank">Institute of Psycho-Structural Balancing</a>.* In addition to massage and bodywork techniques we learned a lot about body psychology, engaged in a variety of meditative disciplines as well as alternative therapeutic-spiritual combos like Naranjo's work. The latter also incorporated ecstasy in his work which was picked up by some in the school, as it was the 'love drug' and used for creating emotional intimacy and bonding.</p>
<p>* As as aside, I did a number of satires of the school and movement during that time. I did one renaming the school The Institoot of Reicho-Fuctual Fantasy, given the combination of sex, drugs and altered states training. I was also a tai chi student-teacher and frustrated with another local teacher that advertised "learn tai chi is 7 short weeks." So I did a satire flyer advertising "Learn tai chi, play the guitar and be a plumber in 7 short days."</p> I met Leary and RAW in their…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2014-06-20:5301756:Comment:569462014-06-20T17:42:00.323ZLayman Pascalhttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/LaymanPascal
<p>I met Leary and RAW in their latter days and their 8-circuit model was the first "developmental ladder" I spent any time pondering. The 4th circuit (socio-sexual) is sometimes related to caffeine and probably other socially promoted "hive work" substances like prozac, ritalin, etc. </p>
<p>Ecstasy, from my experience, is somewhat like THC in its ability to simulate or engender 5th circuit neurosomatic relaxation, turn on, dropping of socialized inter-body anxieties.</p>
<p>I suspect that…</p>
<p>I met Leary and RAW in their latter days and their 8-circuit model was the first "developmental ladder" I spent any time pondering. The 4th circuit (socio-sexual) is sometimes related to caffeine and probably other socially promoted "hive work" substances like prozac, ritalin, etc. </p>
<p>Ecstasy, from my experience, is somewhat like THC in its ability to simulate or engender 5th circuit neurosomatic relaxation, turn on, dropping of socialized inter-body anxieties.</p>
<p>I suspect that most of the "entities" are functions of the 7th circuit but we must always leave ourselves an opening to 8th circuit entities in whatever fashion we are willing to conceive them -- provided we do not start pretending we can conceive the impossible.</p>
<p>And, yeah, Leary is very much a prominent foregrounder for the pragmatics of dealing between levels and tiers. He was sharpened by his frequent run ins with political and clandestine agencies in a way that contemporary progressive mutants often loose touch with. </p> Remembering RAW and his books…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2014-06-20:5301756:Comment:568802014-06-20T16:13:03.439ZEdward theurj Bergehttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/theurj
<p>Remembering RAW and his books I recalled his use of Leary's 8-circuit model, archived <a href="http://deoxy.org/8circuit.htm" target="_blank">here</a>. There are also a number of related links in the upper right corner. Leary thought the first 4 circuits were for bio-survival, the second 4 for space travel survival.</p>
<p>Also of note on the 4th circuit is says that a drug has yet to be invented for this circuit. Since then Ecstasy, the love drug, was created and aptly fits for this…</p>
<p>Remembering RAW and his books I recalled his use of Leary's 8-circuit model, archived <a href="http://deoxy.org/8circuit.htm" target="_blank">here</a>. There are also a number of related links in the upper right corner. Leary thought the first 4 circuits were for bio-survival, the second 4 for space travel survival.</p>
<p>Also of note on the 4th circuit is says that a drug has yet to be invented for this circuit. Since then Ecstasy, the love drug, was created and aptly fits for this one.</p>
<p>The 8th circuit goes metaphysical in that it is post-physiological and asserts that "consciousness probably precedes the biological unit or DNA tape-loop. [...] It is therefore possible that the <a href="http://deoxy.org/hs_cehn.htm">mysterious 'entities'</a> (angels and extraterrestrials) monotonously reported by circuit VIII visionaries are members or races already evolved to this level. But it is also possible, as Leary and Sarfatti more recently suggest, that They are ourselves-in-the-future." I'll go with the "more recent" hypothesis.</p>
<p>Of particular interest is <a href="http://deoxy.org/8_larvals.htm" target="_blank">this</a> section by Leary called "The post-larval must be very cautious in communicating with larval humans." It talks about how to frame things so that larvals can understand, warning that "you cannot use butterfly language to communicate with caterpillars." There's also a caution of communicating with those in the initial transition to the post-larval, or hippies (aka greenies). They tend toward "vague, mystical terms."</p> I saw this on FB today, a rec…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2014-06-18:5301756:Comment:568712014-06-18T21:46:28.650ZEdward theurj Bergehttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/theurj
<p>I saw <a href="http://expandingmind.podbean.com/e/expanding-mind-the-beast-is-back-060814/http://" target="_blank">this</a> on FB today, a recent podcast on Crowley.</p>
<p>I saw <a href="http://expandingmind.podbean.com/e/expanding-mind-the-beast-is-back-060814/http://" target="_blank">this</a> on FB today, a recent podcast on Crowley.</p> Crowley's prime certainly out…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2014-06-18:5301756:Comment:569302014-06-18T16:25:43.153ZLayman Pascalhttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/LaymanPascal
<p>Crowley's prime certainly outclasses his later years -- whether he really gave up the post-metaphysical, open-ended approach to "entities" or simply relaxed his concern about clarifying that part of things. Hard drugs, hard living, and the <em>pushy approach</em> to self-growth take their toll on our integrative comprehensiveness. Or at least upon its expressions. </p>
<p>Crowley's prime certainly outclasses his later years -- whether he really gave up the post-metaphysical, open-ended approach to "entities" or simply relaxed his concern about clarifying that part of things. Hard drugs, hard living, and the <em>pushy approach</em> to self-growth take their toll on our integrative comprehensiveness. Or at least upon its expressions. </p> And I can accept 'entities' i…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2014-06-17:5301756:Comment:568622014-06-17T04:17:28.284ZEdward theurj Bergehttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/theurj
<p>And I can accept 'entities' independent of our knowledge, just not in the metaphysical sense that Crowley did. E.g., not only the withdrawn aspects of the real but also actual suobjects outside our knowledge, still in a naturalistic frame. And of course even suobjects within our knowledge, since they retain their independent autonomy that does not depend on our relationships to them. And so on ad nauseum in many other posts.</p>
<p>And I can accept 'entities' independent of our knowledge, just not in the metaphysical sense that Crowley did. E.g., not only the withdrawn aspects of the real but also actual suobjects outside our knowledge, still in a naturalistic frame. And of course even suobjects within our knowledge, since they retain their independent autonomy that does not depend on our relationships to them. And so on ad nauseum in many other posts.</p> From Crowley, Liber O:
"In th…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2014-06-17:5301756:Comment:568612014-06-17T03:57:10.982ZEdward theurj Bergehttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/theurj
<p>From Crowley, <a href="http://hermetic.com/crowley/libers/lib6.html" target="_blank">Liber O</a>:</p>
<p>"In this book it is spoken of the Sephiroth and the Paths; of Spirits and Conjurations; of Gods, Spheres, Planes, and many other things which may or may not exist. It is immaterial whether these exist or not. By doing certain things certain results will follow; students are most earnestly warned against attributing objective reality or philosophic validity to any of them."</p>
<p>However…</p>
<p>From Crowley, <a href="http://hermetic.com/crowley/libers/lib6.html" target="_blank">Liber O</a>:</p>
<p>"In this book it is spoken of the Sephiroth and the Paths; of Spirits and Conjurations; of Gods, Spheres, Planes, and many other things which may or may not exist. It is immaterial whether these exist or not. By doing certain things certain results will follow; students are most earnestly warned against attributing objective reality or philosophic validity to any of them."</p>
<p>However per Pasi in <a href="http://www.academia.edu/1432705/Varieties_of_Magical_Experience_Aleister_Crowleys_Views_on_Occult_Practice" target="_blank">this</a> article Crowley shifted from a naturalistic and psychological interpretation of magical states to a metaphysical belief in entities independent of his psyche. The article notes that Regardie, one of Crowley's students in the same tradition, retained the naturalistic/psychological interpretation where "the integration of the human personality" was the goal. I am more inclined to earlier Crowley and Regardie in this respect.* The article is long and goes into history, citations and technical issues probably not of much interest to most, so skip to the conclusion for the summary.</p>
<p>* But including the integration of self and culture, inside and outside, quads, levels, lines, states etc.</p>