Quacademics - Integral Post-Metaphysical Spirituality2024-03-28T17:11:02Zhttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/forum/topics/quacademics?commentId=5301756%3AComment%3A56821&feed=yes&xn_auth=noSee this recent Montuori IW a…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2014-09-02:5301756:Comment:578742014-09-02T05:05:26.986ZEdward theurj Bergehttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/theurj
<p>See <a href="http://www.integralworld.net/montuori1.html" target="_blank">this</a> recent Montuori IW article on his perception of academia today. One aspect highlighted therein we discussed above in how collegiate scholars are out to make a name, to discern themselves as creating a unique contribution. Hence it reinforces the notion of a self-made person based solely on their own merits while deemphasizing or ignoring the societal and cultural shoulders on which one stands. It's an…</p>
<p>See <a href="http://www.integralworld.net/montuori1.html" target="_blank">this</a> recent Montuori IW article on his perception of academia today. One aspect highlighted therein we discussed above in how collegiate scholars are out to make a name, to discern themselves as creating a unique contribution. Hence it reinforces the notion of a self-made person based solely on their own merits while deemphasizing or ignoring the societal and cultural shoulders on which one stands. It's an imbalance of autonomy and knowledge ownership in distinction with open, peer to peer knowledge generation. Sure, there can be a balance of autonomous individuals within the P2P paradigm, but that seems the exception rather than the rule in current academia. There are signs of change though as noted in Rifkin's <a href="http://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/forum/topics/the-zero-marginal-cost-society-by-jeremy-rifkin?commentId=5301756%3AComment%3A56149" target="_self">chapter 7</a>, for example.</p>
<p>Another of Montuori's examples I appreciated is a learning environment of peers that are not afraid to put out tentative ideas and work together to develop them. It sounded a lot like what we do here.</p> I hesitate before terms like…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2014-06-21:5301756:Comment:568862014-06-21T17:44:04.892ZLayman Pascalhttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/LaymanPascal
<p>I hesitate before terms like "meta-paradigmatic" and "meta-theory". The obviousness of their distinction is not always so obvious. However in a very simple way we know that cognition and articulation are different at every level. What we see, know, recognize, sense and intuit as the enabling patterns of our world are always in excess of our ability to adequately articulate them. Something like theory (which is equally something like poetry) is always following up the rear and pushing us…</p>
<p>I hesitate before terms like "meta-paradigmatic" and "meta-theory". The obviousness of their distinction is not always so obvious. However in a very simple way we know that cognition and articulation are different at every level. What we see, know, recognize, sense and intuit as the enabling patterns of our world are always in excess of our ability to adequately articulate them. Something like theory (which is equally something like poetry) is always following up the rear and pushing us forward in the process. </p>
<p>Every level invents or receives categories that approximate its perceptions well enough to use as a temporary articulation of the universe. Under slightly abnormal conditions the articulation may parasitically overwhelm the host cognition but the proper path is for stabilization to enable new discoveries. New hints arise at the edges. We dimly glimpse the glimmers of our next set of gluing conditions which will requires our next set of receptivity to categories which will have to be glued together in order to stabilize themselves.</p>
<p>Passing from level to level, repeating this, we slowly draw conclusions related to the whole process. At first our conclusions may gravitate around the articulations. Then perhaps around the articulations AND the gluing process. Then these are joined by an increasing sensitivity to the relationship between foreground and background activity -- the open-endedness of our process is not lost but it is challenged by the perception of half-visible structural dynamics which appear to have permitted emergence, categories and gluing at all of the previous levels.</p>
<p>Articulating this who whole mess is vastly fascinating. And articulation is as much poetry as theory, as much justice as spirituality. The lingering traces of quasi-predictable structure which enable theories and paradigms to pass into each other starts to suggest a seductive future in which we can quasi-predict (which is no differently that sanely and creatively responding) an increasingly diverse, self-unfolding and organic-ish panoply of categories rather than reacting with or merely doubting the received and invented categorizations of each paradigm. So I think there is a link to preventative justice here. </p>
<p>The "superficial" quality of meta-data is expanding and increases by unknown increments its fidelity to the complex world that it still only provides the skin for...</p>
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The language…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2014-06-13:5301756:Comment:567582014-06-13T19:03:39.455ZLayman Pascalhttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/LaymanPascal
<p>Beautiful clip.</p>
<p>The language of "castrating realization" is perhaps too laden with the peculiar pessimism of post-war Europeans. A younger and more optimistic rendering might phrase it thusly:</p>
<p>The philosopher's stone appears already within our grasp in the form of its beyond-our-reach-ness. The true phallus is constituted by the structural totality of the space which relates the apparent phallus to its own absence. </p>
<p>When Lacan defined the phallus as "the penis plus the…</p>
<p>Beautiful clip.</p>
<p>The language of "castrating realization" is perhaps too laden with the peculiar pessimism of post-war Europeans. A younger and more optimistic rendering might phrase it thusly:</p>
<p>The philosopher's stone appears already within our grasp in the form of its beyond-our-reach-ness. The true phallus is constituted by the structural totality of the space which relates the apparent phallus to its own absence. </p>
<p>When Lacan defined the phallus as "the penis plus the idea of lack" he meant, I would posit, not only that the phallus is the obsession of the person who cannot assimilate their own psycho-emotional (and constituitive!) castration but also that the double image of potency and the absence of potency must cooperate in order to reestablish our spiritual tumescence.</p>
<p>The Name, revisioned as Naming, admits to an endless series of gaps and missteps upon which its functional operation may proceed as surely as real physical continuity is established mysteriously upon the non-linear and discrete reality of quantum flux-packets. </p>
<p>But to move deeper into the real potency is a move that must risk the full possibility of perpetual 'castration'. In that sense my religious ear delights in the psychoanalystic-existential terminology of ponderous early 20th century euro-theory.</p>
<p>Perhaps this slight differential in phraseology may be reflected in a back-to-back viewing of "La Mancha" and "They Might Be Giants" -- in which a subtly different vindication of the dislocated psyche is presented at the end. And as for the Gilliam's version (a recapitulation of his failure to film a version of Quixote starring Johnny Depp) I leave that to the metatheorists...</p> Yes, the continuous process o…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2014-06-13:5301756:Comment:567572014-06-13T18:30:08.782ZJoseph Camosyhttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/JosephCamosy
<p>Yes, the continuous process of re-naming. The castrating realization that we can never become the phallus. The philosopher's stone will always remain beyond our reach. It is only the neurotic who refuses to accept this. What's in a name: Aldonza or Dulcinea?</p>
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<p>Yes, the continuous process of re-naming. The castrating realization that we can never become the phallus. The philosopher's stone will always remain beyond our reach. It is only the neurotic who refuses to accept this. What's in a name: Aldonza or Dulcinea?</p>
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<p></p> The Name of the Father can ne…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2014-06-13:5301756:Comment:569122014-06-13T17:26:06.978ZLayman Pascalhttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/LaymanPascal
<p>The Name of the Father can never do its job too well. Why not? </p>
<p>Partly because "too well" is its job. The optimization of excess is implicit in its function. </p>
<p>Partly because the effect of the Name must always be changing in order to accommodate changing realities. The Name is always a Trying-to-Re-Name. In a dynamic reality the fit of data-to-model is never a fact but always a process, a dance. Temporary "perfect fit" represents an edifying peak experience (of variable…</p>
<p>The Name of the Father can never do its job too well. Why not? </p>
<p>Partly because "too well" is its job. The optimization of excess is implicit in its function. </p>
<p>Partly because the effect of the Name must always be changing in order to accommodate changing realities. The Name is always a Trying-to-Re-Name. In a dynamic reality the fit of data-to-model is never a fact but always a process, a dance. Temporary "perfect fit" represents an edifying peak experience (of variable rationality) upon we could feed profitably but which will, inevitably, pass away. The insistence of the psychically inflated character that he is perpetually locked into a world of over-adequate signification must be taken as incomplete self-reporting. Rigidity is not strength. The natural operation of over-signification (suchness) is dependent upon a repeated creative effort -- whether we imagine it is a glimpse into the underlying condition or not.</p>
<p>Partly because the anti-anxiety functions of the Name are putative, projective, anticipated only by the over-anxious. When the Name closes off anxiety its function is premature. It is dysfunction. To truly function it Names "some anxiety" as a perfectly acceptable aspect of itself. "No God" is a fine Name of God. All variants converge in the Name and therefore it can only function truly by accommodating its simultaneously success and failure. To overcome psychosis it is necessary to establish the missing stamp of Order but overstamping is not success. One breaks the stamp by smashing it against the page. The perfect paranoid is no one's idea of a solution to the psychotic's universe of instability. </p> What happens when all the dat…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2014-06-12:5301756:Comment:566772014-06-12T20:45:35.437ZJoseph Camosyhttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/JosephCamosy
<p>What happens when all the data fits your meta-theory? </p>
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<p>Has anxiety been relieved through an adequate "signification" or through a kind of paradigmatic psychosis?</p>
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<p>In other words, has "The Name of the Father" done it job well, too well, or not well enough?</p>
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<p>What happens when all the data fits your meta-theory? </p>
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<p>Has anxiety been relieved through an adequate "signification" or through a kind of paradigmatic psychosis?</p>
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<p>In other words, has "The Name of the Father" done it job well, too well, or not well enough?</p>
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<p></p> Yeah, it sounds likes it's go…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2014-06-12:5301756:Comment:567522014-06-12T18:41:19.072ZLayman Pascalhttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/LaymanPascal
<p>Yeah, it sounds likes it's going in a very good direction.</p>
<p>The danger of theory-building is over-optimization. Success proves an existing form which entrenches it and adorns with a halo effect. This makes future openness a little more difficult. But at the same time we should have to work harder to challenge things which have comprehensiveness and internal consistency. Yet, of course, we SHOULD make that effort. Every system is only as open or closed as the person handling it at…</p>
<p>Yeah, it sounds likes it's going in a very good direction.</p>
<p>The danger of theory-building is over-optimization. Success proves an existing form which entrenches it and adorns with a halo effect. This makes future openness a little more difficult. But at the same time we should have to work harder to challenge things which have comprehensiveness and internal consistency. Yet, of course, we SHOULD make that effort. Every system is only as open or closed as the person handling it at a given moment. </p>
<p>This gets even more complicated with theories that include verticality because it is uncertain how much depth can be unfolded from any structure. We want to encourage people to carry existing models as far as they can go (acting as though they could go endlessly) while opening them at each step of the journey to alternatives (including both rival theories and rival domains of verification -- such as, importantly, empirical data).</p> That is where the discussion…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2014-06-12:5301756:Comment:567512014-06-12T18:21:39.036ZEdward theurj Bergehttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/theurj
<p>That is where the discussion of grounded theory is going in the FB IPS site. Theories are necessary to give context to data. But when new data comes in the theory is revised to account for it in an ongoing process. The criticism above was about kennilingus having an aversion to revision when new data challenges it.</p>
<p>That is where the discussion of grounded theory is going in the FB IPS site. Theories are necessary to give context to data. But when new data comes in the theory is revised to account for it in an ongoing process. The criticism above was about kennilingus having an aversion to revision when new data challenges it.</p> It is dangerously "liberal" t…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2014-06-12:5301756:Comment:568372014-06-12T17:56:17.032ZLayman Pascalhttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/LaymanPascal
<p>It is dangerously "liberal" to move top-down from theory to data... and lop-sidedly "conservative" to insist that data must drive theory. This is true with normal and meta-theory. The integrative balance requires us to view both theory and empirical data as two complementary domains evolving toward greater correspondence with each other -- and this correspondence is a qualitative and practice surplus which exceeds either. Inter-domain validation is a concept which is already built upon a…</p>
<p>It is dangerously "liberal" to move top-down from theory to data... and lop-sidedly "conservative" to insist that data must drive theory. This is true with normal and meta-theory. The integrative balance requires us to view both theory and empirical data as two complementary domains evolving toward greater correspondence with each other -- and this correspondence is a qualitative and practice surplus which exceeds either. Inter-domain validation is a concept which is already built upon a critique of theory moving in its own realm apart from the emergent data points. Yet it is too easy, too MOA-1 to think we merely need to flip this around. Ambidexterity is required. And though it is not difficult to agree with this point it is a matter of personal and collective praxis in weaving theory and empiricism together in more robust ways that is missing. Unless we are grounded and ambidextrous in our behavioral intelligence there is not view (metatheoretical or empirical) that will carry us past the inherited limits of our field of study.</p> ISM replied: It seems this id…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2014-06-09:5301756:Comment:567312014-06-09T21:56:23.656ZEdward theurj Bergehttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/theurj
<p>ISM replied: <span><span class="UFICommentBody"><span>It seems this idea of "meta-theory" is not essentially unlike a post-Kuhnian understanding of what amounts to "meta-paradigmatic" thinking...</span></span></span></p>
<p>I said: <span><span class="UFICommentBody"><span>Except that it's job is not to in/validate empirical theories but to find ways theories might mesh, and to make some broad overarching generalizations therefrom. And possibly finding some 'relative universals,' as Zalamea…</span></span></span></p>
<p>ISM replied: <span><span class="UFICommentBody"><span>It seems this idea of "meta-theory" is not essentially unlike a post-Kuhnian understanding of what amounts to "meta-paradigmatic" thinking...</span></span></span></p>
<p>I said: <span><span class="UFICommentBody"><span>Except that it's job is not to in/validate empirical theories but to find ways theories might mesh, and to make some broad overarching generalizations therefrom. And possibly finding some 'relative universals,' as Zalamea calls them. But certainly not to transcend and include theories, or to make empirical claims about theories. Or even to implement empirical changes in socio-economics etc., as that is not its purview. It's sort of like meta-data, not dealing in content but finding the broadest, and I'd argue, the most superficial of connections. Like we both called the same number in Iran associated with someone whose cousin's sister's friend is a terrorist.</span></span></span></p>