Pope Francis' Encyclical on Integral Ecology and Climate Change - Integral Post-Metaphysical Spirituality2024-03-28T14:35:45Zhttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/forum/topics/pope-francis-encyclical-on-integral-ecology?commentId=5301756%3AComment%3A62438&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noAmen brother.tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2015-09-27:5301756:Comment:624382015-09-27T20:42:43.587ZEdward theurj Bergehttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/theurj
<p>Amen brother.</p>
<p>Amen brother.</p> See my latest blog post, Pogo…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2015-09-27:5301756:Comment:622762015-09-27T00:14:24.082ZDavidM58http://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/DavidM58
<p>See my latest blog post, <a href="https://integralpermaculture.wordpress.com/2015/09/26/pogonomics-and-pope-onomics/" target="_blank">Pogonomics and Pope-onomics</a>, inspired and somewhat framed around the Nathan Schneider <a href="http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/09/23/pope-onomics-francis-keys-to-a-better-economy-and-world/" target="_blank">article</a> theurj linked to the other day, but also framed around Joe Dominguez (co-author of Your Money or Your Life) and what he called…</p>
<p>See my latest blog post, <a href="https://integralpermaculture.wordpress.com/2015/09/26/pogonomics-and-pope-onomics/" target="_blank">Pogonomics and Pope-onomics</a>, inspired and somewhat framed around the Nathan Schneider <a href="http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/09/23/pope-onomics-francis-keys-to-a-better-economy-and-world/" target="_blank">article</a> theurj linked to the other day, but also framed around Joe Dominguez (co-author of Your Money or Your Life) and what he called Pogonomics (after Walt Kelly's Pogo, who said "We have met the enemy and he is us").</p>
<p><a target="_self" href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2505376251?profile=original"><img class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2505376251?profile=original" width="599"/></a></p> Here's Lakoff on the Pope's f…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2015-06-26:5301756:Comment:616672015-06-26T14:17:40.254ZEdward theurj Bergehttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/theurj
<p><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/george-lakoff/pope-francis-gets-the-mor_b_7665694.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Here</a>'s Lakoff on the Pope's framing. The Pope frames the environment as a moral issue. It is our common home to which we should be grateful and accept responsibility for its healthy functioning. We, meaning the entire planet, are a family that should take care of and support each other. When we don't see it this way, when we see the earth as something to be…</p>
<p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/george-lakoff/pope-francis-gets-the-mor_b_7665694.html" target="_blank">Here</a>'s Lakoff on the Pope's framing. The Pope frames the environment as a moral issue. It is our common home to which we should be grateful and accept responsibility for its healthy functioning. We, meaning the entire planet, are a family that should take care of and support each other. When we don't see it this way, when we see the earth as something to be exploited, this also leads to carrying that attitude over to the exploitation of people for our own greed. The right moral frame and enactment is empathy, and the Pope got it right. <i>And</i> he provides the science to back it up, which when framed in moral terms is an integrated approach to coordinating different domains of experience.</p>
<p>This is not an anti-business stance, only anti-greed and dysfuntional self-interest. There is certainly room for the self, but it must be in relation to others and the environment. The current capitalist system is basically me first and the rest can go to hell, preferably in a handbasket. Business done morally right is win-win for all, not just for me. And there's plenty of profit within that framework, as well as merit pay based on individual performance so that not everyone earns the same. But that must take environmental capacity and sustainability into account as a moral business imperative. Again, showing how different domains interact is an integral ecological approach, one Lakoff calls an ecological spirituality.</p>
<p>See Lakoff's piece for much more detail.</p> Here are two relevant, and re…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2015-06-25:5301756:Comment:613942015-06-25T15:41:26.562ZBalderhttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/BruceAlderman
<p>Here are two relevant, and related, stories on Catholics and Buddhists coming together to work on some of these issues.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.romereports.com/pg161925-pope-francis-meets-with-buddhist-leaders-oethese-small-gestures-are-seeds-of-peace-en#.VYwTLoTdWts.facebook" target="_blank">Pope Francis Meets with Buddhist Leaders…</a><br></br><br></br></p>
<p>Here are two relevant, and related, stories on Catholics and Buddhists coming together to work on some of these issues.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.romereports.com/pg161925-pope-francis-meets-with-buddhist-leaders-oethese-small-gestures-are-seeds-of-peace-en#.VYwTLoTdWts.facebook" target="_blank">Pope Francis Meets with Buddhist Leaders</a><br/><br/><a href="http://en.radiovaticana.va/news/2015/06/23/us_buddhists,_catholics_begin_new_interreligious_dialogue_/1153525" target="_blank">Buddhists, Catholics begin new dialogue on 'suffering, liberation, fraternity'</a><br/><br/><br/></p> Cool, thank you. I'll check…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2015-06-23:5301756:Comment:613862015-06-23T14:35:38.493ZBalderhttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/BruceAlderman
<p>Cool, thank you. I'll check it out. (It's off-topic for this thread, but I'm finding a good resource for my "Sophia" work - and my recent paper - in Steven Shaviro's <a href="http://www.amazon.com/The-Universe-Things-Speculative-Posthumanities/dp/0816689261" target="_blank">The Universe of Things</a>.)</p>
<p>Cool, thank you. I'll check it out. (It's off-topic for this thread, but I'm finding a good resource for my "Sophia" work - and my recent paper - in Steven Shaviro's <a href="http://www.amazon.com/The-Universe-Things-Speculative-Posthumanities/dp/0816689261" target="_blank">The Universe of Things</a>.)</p> One of Transition Abq's partn…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2015-06-23:5301756:Comment:615872015-06-23T13:26:33.544ZEdward theurj Bergehttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/theurj
<p>One of Transition Abq's partners is <a href="http://www.nm-ipl.org/" target="_blank">New Mexico Interfaith Power & Light</a>, where Balder might find resources for his own interfaith inquiry.</p>
<p>One of Transition Abq's partners is <a href="http://www.nm-ipl.org/" target="_blank">New Mexico Interfaith Power & Light</a>, where Balder might find resources for his own interfaith inquiry.</p> Speaking of which, here's the…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2015-06-23:5301756:Comment:615862015-06-23T13:23:39.784ZEdward theurj Bergehttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/theurj
<p>Speaking of which, <a href="http://transitionabq.org/" target="_blank">here</a>'s the Transition Albuquerque website. I'll be participating in it more after my current commitments free up.</p>
<p>Speaking of which, <a href="http://transitionabq.org/" target="_blank">here</a>'s the Transition Albuquerque website. I'll be participating in it more after my current commitments free up.</p> From the Keller article, the…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2015-06-23:5301756:Comment:616622015-06-23T03:50:43.070ZDavidM58http://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/DavidM58
<p>From the Keller article, the neologism "weaving a glocal web," which I'm assuming here was not a typo, but combining the words global and local, ala …</p>
<p>From the Keller article, the neologism "weaving a glocal web," which I'm assuming here was not a typo, but combining the words global and local, ala <a href="http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=6&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CDwQFjAF&url=http%3A%2F%2Fintegralleadershipreview.com%2F7254-the-new-little-red-book%2F&ei=adaIVd7XK4PyoAT5p4P4Ag&usg=AFQjCNHxFJ7wWQpzd9TJ0vZKlCEyMeuetw&sig2=upTSWpR_tPuiRgqm5is-fg&bvm=bv.96339352,d.cGU" target="_blank">Edgar Morin's dictum</a> that "we must globalize and deglobalize," or the Transition/Resilience/peak oil movement calling for "relocalization."</p>
<p><span class="larger">Keller:</span></p>
<blockquote><p><span class="larger">These are very concrete instances of creative entanglement, weaving a glocal web: The relationality is highly intentional: for instance, a statement of gratitude now up on the 350.org website was sent to the NW activists from the Pacific Climate Warriors who in traditional hand-carved canoes paddled into the port of Newcastle in Australia to blockade one of the largest coal-shipping terminals in the world. They were met by thousands of people on land. This is catalytic agency bubbling up from below.</span></p>
</blockquote> Unfortunately, I think things…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2015-06-22:5301756:Comment:613852015-06-22T23:35:33.439ZDavidM58http://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/DavidM58
<p>Unfortunately, I think things might have to get much worse - true chaos and widespread catastrophe, resulting in the collapse of the 1%. Not in 15 years as Keller indicates, but in 0 to 5 years. At that point we <em>just might, possibly</em>, be in a position and willing to enact the integral epoch. </p>
<p>Although I understand what you mean equating the 1% as those responsible, there's another perspective in which we're all responsible. And that the 1% are as caught up in the myth of the…</p>
<p>Unfortunately, I think things might have to get much worse - true chaos and widespread catastrophe, resulting in the collapse of the 1%. Not in 15 years as Keller indicates, but in 0 to 5 years. At that point we <em>just might, possibly</em>, be in a position and willing to enact the integral epoch. </p>
<p>Although I understand what you mean equating the 1% as those responsible, there's another perspective in which we're all responsible. And that the 1% are as caught up in the myth of the given/misplaced concreteness, that they can't see their way out, and are as much trapped in the system as the rest of us.</p> I honestly think those respon…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2015-06-22:5301756:Comment:615852015-06-22T20:58:13.137ZEdward theurj Bergehttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/theurj
<p>I honestly think those responsible for the climate disaster, the curdled cream of the 1%, really don't give a shit about the lives of people or the planet. It seems no amount of catastrophe will do the trick for them.</p>
<p>I honestly think those responsible for the climate disaster, the curdled cream of the 1%, really don't give a shit about the lives of people or the planet. It seems no amount of catastrophe will do the trick for them.</p>