Michel Serres - Integral Post-Metaphysical Spirituality2024-03-28T13:35:11Zhttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/forum/topics/michel-serres?commentId=5301756%3AComment%3A60333&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI'm thinking that this thread…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2016-01-23:5301756:Comment:634042016-01-23T14:07:58.118ZAmbo Sunohttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/AmboSuno
<p>I'm thinking that this thread may be a suitable place in which to display a more visible feature than is usually noticed in ocean wavyness. As you can see, there is a grain-like pattern of curve and sworl similar to the lines seen in a crosscut tree. These lines apparently have to do with 'laws', 'rules', 'typical patterns' of nature as materials within fields organize themselves. A few of these are something like attraction-cohesion, proximity-resistance and spacing, within a dynamically…</p>
<p>I'm thinking that this thread may be a suitable place in which to display a more visible feature than is usually noticed in ocean wavyness. As you can see, there is a grain-like pattern of curve and sworl similar to the lines seen in a crosscut tree. These lines apparently have to do with 'laws', 'rules', 'typical patterns' of nature as materials within fields organize themselves. A few of these are something like attraction-cohesion, proximity-resistance and spacing, within a dynamically responsive and viscous medium of water (& air), and a field of gravity.</p>
<p>In the distance you can maybe see wave lines' response of curvature away from jetties as you might see curving wood grain around a hard knot, as our eyes, minds, and sensibilities slice through this reality burl at the level where atmosphere meets land and sea.</p>
<p>This was an iphone 4 snapshot from yesterday upon a hill, from a distance of a few miles, following a daunting-for-me up-close-and-personal view and immersion of largish waves that I paddled and rode over, around, and through. The experiences of feeling, seeing, sensing, and bodily/mentally triangulating was one of minor awe for a surf-buddy and myself.</p>
<p><a target="_self" href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2505377323?profile=original"><img width="721" class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2505377323?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="721"/></a></p> Good, thanks, 5 senses is dow…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2015-11-20:5301756:Comment:629552015-11-20T22:42:40.687ZAmbo Sunohttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/AmboSuno
Good, thanks, 5 senses is downloaded.<br />
Good weekend.
Good, thanks, 5 senses is downloaded.<br />
Good weekend. Ambo, yes, I think you'll enj…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2015-11-19:5301756:Comment:627952015-11-19T19:42:23.164ZBalderhttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/BruceAlderman
<p>Ambo, yes, I think you'll enjoy it - and it may make a nice complement and extension to <em>Touching</em> (here, touching via all the senses...). If you'd like, you can download the book for free from bookzz.org.</p>
<p>Ambo, yes, I think you'll enjoy it - and it may make a nice complement and extension to <em>Touching</em> (here, touching via all the senses...). If you'd like, you can download the book for free from bookzz.org.</p> Very cool Balder, thanks for…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2015-11-19:5301756:Comment:629522015-11-19T03:55:10.766ZDavidM58http://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/DavidM58
<p>Very cool Balder, thanks for sharing.</p>
<p>Very cool Balder, thanks for sharing.</p> I'll try order it through the…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2015-11-19:5301756:Comment:629512015-11-19T00:49:23.959ZAmbo Sunohttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/AmboSuno
I'll try order it through the library. See if I can get into this beautiful book.<br />
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There was a book that I got into deeply, I think in the mid to late 70's by Ashley Montagu, called Touching: The human significance of the skin. At the time it was an extraordinary eye-opener for me to the inter-relatedness of all 'parts' of ourselves, deep and surface, and the worldly surround. Then, I was moved by so many things physiological, anatomical, 'holistic', especially as related to our subjective…
I'll try order it through the library. See if I can get into this beautiful book.<br />
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There was a book that I got into deeply, I think in the mid to late 70's by Ashley Montagu, called Touching: The human significance of the skin. At the time it was an extraordinary eye-opener for me to the inter-relatedness of all 'parts' of ourselves, deep and surface, and the worldly surround. Then, I was moved by so many things physiological, anatomical, 'holistic', especially as related to our subjective senses of life and psychological health. Though I was in sort of inner crisis, kinds of semi-florid lostnesses, for a decade or three, I showed up in some ways by digging into themes that touched me and that seemed central. For a few years, I was the only massage therapist in the California central valley city where I was and where I also worked in a hospital physical therapy department for a few years. Body-mind and the holistic and new-age romances with potential of that era carried me forward quite a ways despite my psychic turmoils and melancholies that would mess with my work and relationship stability and such.<br />
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This michael serres book gives off a resonant feel to me of those times and that book by Montagu, though it appears we have come a long way in 30-40 years. (Hardcover - 1971)<br />
Good stuff. Thanks, d<br />
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Touching-The-Human-Significance-Skin/dp/0060960280" target="_blank">http://www.amazon.com/Touching-The-Human-Significance-Skin/dp/0060960280</a><br />
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<cite>Balder said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/forum/topics/michel-serres?commentId=5301756%3AComment%3A62792&xg_source=activity#5301756Comment62792"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Yeah, I think this passage speaks beautifully and evocatively to the 'mood' and form of certain key views we've explored here in the last few years. With Serres' book (The Five Senses), I could almost take any three paragraphs and they would have similar force. The book is a work of art.</p>
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</blockquote> Yeah, I think this passage sp…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2015-11-18:5301756:Comment:627922015-11-18T17:30:42.353ZBalderhttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/BruceAlderman
<p>Yeah, I think this passage speaks beautifully and evocatively to the 'mood' and form of certain key views we've explored here in the last few years. With Serres' book (The Five Senses), I could almost take any three paragraphs and they would have similar force. The book is a work of art.</p>
<p>Yeah, I think this passage speaks beautifully and evocatively to the 'mood' and form of certain key views we've explored here in the last few years. With Serres' book (The Five Senses), I could almost take any three paragraphs and they would have similar force. The book is a work of art.</p> Knotty and nice Mr. Serres. H…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2015-11-18:5301756:Comment:628542015-11-18T17:03:56.011ZEdward theurj Bergehttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/theurj
<p>Knotty and nice Mr. Serres. He mingles well in the <a href="http://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/forum/topics/states-stages-the-wc-lattice-and-the-fold" target="_self">fold thread</a>.</p>
<p>Knotty and nice Mr. Serres. He mingles well in the <a href="http://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/forum/topics/states-stages-the-wc-lattice-and-the-fold" target="_self">fold thread</a>.</p> Yeah, kind of reminds me of t…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2015-11-18:5301756:Comment:627882015-11-18T16:13:46.106Zandrewhttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/andrew
<p>Yeah, kind of reminds me of this trouble-maker: </p>
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<p>Yeah, kind of reminds me of this trouble-maker: </p>
<p><a href="https://laymanpascal.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/universalagape.pdf" target="_blank">https://laymanpascal.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/universalagape.pdf</a></p> Wow - that's a fine and evoca…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2015-11-18:5301756:Comment:626942015-11-18T09:33:43.746ZAmbo Sunohttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/AmboSuno
<p>Wow - that's a fine and evocative and mighty riff. Complexity, natural forces, conditions and circumstances, order-ish, and apparent chaos, which works, in a strange fashion, as everyday life.</p>
<p>Great visual.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Balder said:…</cite></p>
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<p>Wow - that's a fine and evocative and mighty riff. Complexity, natural forces, conditions and circumstances, order-ish, and apparent chaos, which works, in a strange fashion, as everyday life.</p>
<p>Great visual.<br/> <br/> <cite>Balder said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/forum/topics/michel-serres?commentId=5301756%3AComment%3A62853&xg_source=activity#5301756Comment62853"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p><a target="_self" href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2505385768?profile=original"><img class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2505385768?profile=original" width="720"/></a>Prepositional Poetry: On Embryogenesis, Folds, Adjacency, Knotted Multi-pli-city...<br/><br/>"The organism forms a gigantic knot with as many dimensions as one could<br/>wish. It begins, in an embryonic state, with one or more sheets, folded,<br/>pleated, rolled, invaginated. Embryology has the appearance of applied<br/>topology, looks like an infinitely wrinkled skin. The organism fills with<br/>local interchangers that finally form a global interchange system, a giant<br/>knot made from small differential knots.<br/><br/>The body folds, curves, adapts, enj oying at least three hundred degrees<br/>of freedom. From the feet to the head or to the tips of the fingers it traces<br/>a variable and complex path between the things of the world, changing<br/>like a piece of seaweed in the depths of the water, a thousand and one<br/>exchanges or signals. Knowing things requires one first of all to place<br/>oneself between them. Not only in front in order to see them, but in the<br/>midst of their mixture, on the paths that unite them...<br/><br/>The skin is a variety of contingency: in it, through it, with it, the world<br/>and my body touch each other, the feeling and the felt, it defines their<br/>common edge. Contingency means common tangency: in it the world<br/>and the body intersect and caress each other. I do not wish to call the<br/>place in which I live a medium, I prefer to say that things mingle with<br/>each other and that I am no exception to that, I mix with the world which<br/>mixes with me. Skin intervenes between several things in the world and<br/>makes them mingle.<br/><br/>Mixture is a more accurate term than medium. Medium, too geometrical,<br/>is minimally useful: a centre in a volume, when it is reduced to an<br/>intersection, or the volume itself, when its tendency is to surround.<br/>A point or totality, singular or almost universal. A contradictory and<br/>inflexible concept.<br/><br/>Everything has its place in the middle when the medium is concentrated'<br/>everything meets and joins together in this complex place, in this<br/>knot, through which everything passes, like an interchanger. It makes<br/>me think of the solar plexus of a thwarted left-hander, of an unwilling<br/>ambidextrous person. Everything still has its place in the medium when<br/>it expands to fill the volume. Everything meets there. How? By chance.<br/>Where? In proximity to one another. All right, here is mixture. Confluence,<br/>unfurling, occupation of places.<br/><br/>A medium is abstract, dense, homogeneous, almost stable, concentrated;<br/>a mixture fluctuates. The medium belongs to solid geometry, as one used<br/>to say; a mixture favours fusion and tends towards the fluid. The medium<br/>separates, the mixture mitigates; the medium creates classes and the mixture,<br/>hybrids.<br/><br/>Everything meets in contingency, as if everything had a skin. Contingency<br/>is the tangency of two or several varieties and reveals their proximity to<br/>each other. Water and air border on a thick or thin layer of evaporation,<br/>air and water touch in a bed of mist. Earth and water espouse each other<br/>in clay and mud, are joined in a bed of silt. The cold front and the hot<br/>front slide over each other on a mattress of turbulence. Veils of proximity,<br/>layers, films, membranes, plates. We live on slow, inexorable moving<br/>footpaths, thousands of metres beneath our feet." </p>
<p>(Michel Serres, <em>The Five Senses</em>)</p>
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</blockquote> Prepositional Poetry: On Emb…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2015-11-18:5301756:Comment:628532015-11-18T06:39:55.202ZBalderhttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/BruceAlderman
<p><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2505385768?profile=original" target="_self"><img class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2505385768?profile=original" width="720"></img></a> Prepositional Poetry: On Embryogenesis, Folds, Adjacency, Knotted Multi-pli-city...<br></br><br></br>"The organism forms a gigantic knot with as many dimensions as one could<br></br>wish. It begins, in an embryonic state, with one or more sheets, folded,<br></br>pleated, rolled, invaginated. Embryology has the appearance of applied<br></br>topology, looks like an infinitely wrinkled skin. The…</p>
<p><a target="_self" href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2505385768?profile=original"><img class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2505385768?profile=original" width="720"/></a>Prepositional Poetry: On Embryogenesis, Folds, Adjacency, Knotted Multi-pli-city...<br/><br/>"The organism forms a gigantic knot with as many dimensions as one could<br/>wish. It begins, in an embryonic state, with one or more sheets, folded,<br/>pleated, rolled, invaginated. Embryology has the appearance of applied<br/>topology, looks like an infinitely wrinkled skin. The organism fills with<br/>local interchangers that finally form a global interchange system, a giant<br/>knot made from small differential knots.<br/><br/>The body folds, curves, adapts, enjoying at least three hundred degrees<br/>of freedom. From the feet to the head or to the tips of the fingers it traces<br/>a variable and complex path between the things of the world, changing<br/>like a piece of seaweed in the depths of the water, a thousand and one<br/>exchanges or signals. Knowing things requires one first of all to place<br/>oneself between them. Not only in front in order to see them, but in the<br/>midst of their mixture, on the paths that unite them...<br/><br/>The skin is a variety of contingency: in it, through it, with it, the world<br/>and my body touch each other, the feeling and the felt, it defines their<br/>common edge. Contingency means common tangency: in it the world<br/>and the body intersect and caress each other. I do not wish to call the<br/>place in which I live a medium, I prefer to say that things mingle with<br/>each other and that I am no exception to that, I mix with the world which<br/>mixes with me. Skin intervenes between several things in the world and<br/>makes them mingle.<br/><br/>Mixture is a more accurate term than medium. Medium, too geometrical,<br/>is minimally useful: a centre in a volume, when it is reduced to an<br/>intersection, or the volume itself, when its tendency is to surround.<br/>A point or totality, singular or almost universal. A contradictory and<br/>inflexible concept.<br/><br/>Everything has its place in the middle when the medium is concentrated,<br/>everything meets and joins together in this complex place, in this<br/>knot, through which everything passes, like an interchanger. It makes<br/>me think of the solar plexus of a thwarted left-hander, of an unwilling<br/>ambidextrous person. Everything still has its place in the medium when<br/>it expands to fill the volume. Everything meets there. How? By chance.<br/>Where? In proximity to one another. All right, here is mixture. Confluence,<br/>unfurling, occupation of places.<br/><br/>A medium is abstract, dense, homogeneous, almost stable, concentrated;<br/>a mixture fluctuates. The medium belongs to solid geometry, as one used<br/>to say; a mixture favours fusion and tends towards the fluid. The medium<br/>separates, the mixture mitigates; the medium creates classes and the mixture,<br/>hybrids.<br/><br/>Everything meets in contingency, as if everything had a skin. Contingency<br/>is the tangency of two or several varieties and reveals their proximity to<br/>each other. Water and air border on a thick or thin layer of evaporation,<br/>air and water touch in a bed of mist. Earth and water espouse each other<br/>in clay and mud, are joined in a bed of silt. The cold front and the hot<br/>front slide over each other on a mattress of turbulence. Veils of proximity,<br/>layers, films, membranes, plates. We live on slow, inexorable moving<br/>footpaths, thousands of metres beneath our feet." </p>
<p>(Michel Serres, <em>The Five Senses</em>)</p>