Michel Bitbol: Science as if Situation Mattered - Integral Post-Metaphysical Spirituality2024-03-29T01:54:58Zhttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/forum/topics/michel-bitbol-science-as-if?commentId=5301756%3AComment%3A22214&feed=yes&xn_auth=noHere's a video I recently cam…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2012-11-02:5301756:Comment:439002012-11-02T16:58:39.952ZBalderhttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/BruceAlderman
<p>Here's a video I recently came across featuring a talk by Michel Bitbol at a Buddhism and Science conference: <a href="http://www.voicesfromoxford.com/B-S-Bitbol.html" target="_blank">Interdependence: from classical causality to quantum entanglement</a>. (Some of the other talks in the series look interesting, as well; I'll be checking them out this weekend.)</p>
<p>Here's a video I recently came across featuring a talk by Michel Bitbol at a Buddhism and Science conference: <a href="http://www.voicesfromoxford.com/B-S-Bitbol.html" target="_blank">Interdependence: from classical causality to quantum entanglement</a>. (Some of the other talks in the series look interesting, as well; I'll be checking them out this weekend.)</p> Some Steps Towards a Transcen…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2011-10-18:5301756:Comment:316012011-10-18T21:20:18.022ZBalderhttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/BruceAlderman
<a target="_blank" href="http://michel.bitbol.pagesperso-orange.fr/transcendental.html">Some Steps Towards a Transcendental Deduction of Quantum Mechanics</a>.
<a target="_blank" href="http://michel.bitbol.pagesperso-orange.fr/transcendental.html">Some Steps Towards a Transcendental Deduction of Quantum Mechanics</a>. Yes, good point. At the leas…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2011-10-13:5301756:Comment:311402011-10-13T01:39:53.631ZBalderhttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/BruceAlderman
Yes, good point. At the least, I welcome exposure to OOO for the possible critique(s) it can offer. Though I'm not sure that its solution -- an ontology of only secondarily related, monadic objects -- would escape the criticism Bitbol was discussing. But perhaps I shouldn't say anything about that at this point, one way or the other, since I'm still just getting to know what OOO is about.
Yes, good point. At the least, I welcome exposure to OOO for the possible critique(s) it can offer. Though I'm not sure that its solution -- an ontology of only secondarily related, monadic objects -- would escape the criticism Bitbol was discussing. But perhaps I shouldn't say anything about that at this point, one way or the other, since I'm still just getting to know what OOO is about. ...finally to a critique of t…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2011-10-12:5301756:Comment:313142011-10-12T23:03:02.141ZEdward theurj Bergehttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/theurj
<p><em>...finally to a critique of the tendency to reify co-arising itself.</em></p>
<p>And it is here I think the SR and OOO crowd might be on to something in their critique of founding causality on 'relations,' subjective or otherwise.</p>
<p><em>...finally to a critique of the tendency to reify co-arising itself.</em></p>
<p>And it is here I think the SR and OOO crowd might be on to something in their critique of founding causality on 'relations,' subjective or otherwise.</p> Last night, I attended Michel…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2011-10-12:5301756:Comment:311392011-10-12T22:28:41.995ZBalderhttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/BruceAlderman
<p>Last night, I attended Michel Bitbol's talk on emptiness and quantum entanglement, which I quite enjoyed. The facilitators mentioned after the talk that they were going to post a recording of it online, so once they do, I'll post a link to it here for anyone interested. In his talk, as the title suggests, he explored certain parallels between Buddhist and quantum scientific traditions -- not, as he said, in the interest of comparing two worldviews, but primarily to reflect on how each…</p>
<p>Last night, I attended Michel Bitbol's talk on emptiness and quantum entanglement, which I quite enjoyed. The facilitators mentioned after the talk that they were going to post a recording of it online, so once they do, I'll post a link to it here for anyone interested. In his talk, as the title suggests, he explored certain parallels between Buddhist and quantum scientific traditions -- not, as he said, in the interest of comparing two worldviews, but primarily to reflect on how each approach has arrived at a radical critique of metaphysics. In relation to this, he explored an interesting parallel in the development of these traditions' perspectives on causality -- tracing a development from a largely substantialist conception, to a focus on productive causality, to a renouncing of productive causality and a more refined focus on lawlike regularities, to the embrace of a more radically relational view (co-arising), finally to a critique of the tendency to reify co-arising itself.</p>
<p><br/>More soon, once the talk is posted.</p> What does Varela say about pa…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2011-09-18:5301756:Comment:285902011-09-18T16:03:29.777Zinfimitashttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/GavinRiggott
What does Varela say about panpsychism? Do we have to study the 1st and 3rd-person perspectives of and on, say, a molecule of water?
What does Varela say about panpsychism? Do we have to study the 1st and 3rd-person perspectives of and on, say, a molecule of water? Yes, I just checked my schedu…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2011-09-18:5301756:Comment:286822011-09-18T01:38:09.635ZBalderhttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/BruceAlderman
Yes, I just checked my schedule to make sure I would be free that night. I am, so I will be going.
Yes, I just checked my schedule to make sure I would be free that night. I am, so I will be going. Are you going? Please do. I'd…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2011-09-18:5301756:Comment:287892011-09-18T01:35:31.383ZEdward theurj Bergehttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/theurj
Are you going? Please do. I'd appreciate a report on that one. If I still lived up that way I would go.
Are you going? Please do. I'd appreciate a report on that one. If I still lived up that way I would go. I am just returning from the…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2011-09-18:5301756:Comment:285862011-09-18T00:50:43.648ZBalderhttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/BruceAlderman
<p>I am just returning from the <a href="http://www.mangalamresearch.org/" target="_blank">Mangalam Research Center for Buddhist Languages</a> in Berkeley, CA, where I introduced my upcoming TSK/Integral mini-course, and was happy to learn that Michel Bitbol will be visiting the US next month and will be giving a talk at the center on October 11. The subject of the talk seems rather timely for the conversations we've been having here recently: "Quantum Entanglement and the Buddhist Doctrine…</p>
<p>I am just returning from the <a href="http://www.mangalamresearch.org/" target="_blank">Mangalam Research Center for Buddhist Languages</a> in Berkeley, CA, where I introduced my upcoming TSK/Integral mini-course, and was happy to learn that Michel Bitbol will be visiting the US next month and will be giving a talk at the center on October 11. The subject of the talk seems rather timely for the conversations we've been having here recently: "Quantum Entanglement and the Buddhist Doctrine of Dependent Origination."</p>
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<p>Here's the summary:</p>
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<p>"The analogy between crucial features of quantum physics and the Buddhist concept of pratityasamutpada (dependent origination, or interdependence) has often been noted and discussed. In this talk, Professor Bitbol goes beyond the formal similarities to discus the precise ways in which the analogy holds, and why this should be so. The real issue, he suggests, is not about similarities in world views, nor is it about different methodologies for probing reality that arrive at similar results. Rather, the truly meaningful link between these two disciplines is their extensive critique of all metaphysics and claims to essentialism."</p> This web page contains a good…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2011-07-11:5301756:Comment:222142011-07-11T19:26:30.154ZBalderhttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/BruceAlderman
This web page contains a good sampling of <a target="_blank" href="http://michel.bitbol.pagesperso-orange.fr/index.html">Michel Bitbol's papers</a> (on quantum mechanics, consciousness, introspection, epistemology, ontology, etc).
This web page contains a good sampling of <a target="_blank" href="http://michel.bitbol.pagesperso-orange.fr/index.html">Michel Bitbol's papers</a> (on quantum mechanics, consciousness, introspection, epistemology, ontology, etc).