Gaia--the greater life accessible here and now - Integral Post-Metaphysical Spirituality2024-03-28T17:13:08Zhttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/forum/topics/gaia-the-greater-life-accessible-here-and-now?commentId=5301756%3AComment%3A43231&xg_raw_resources=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noYou're too kind brother. Lo…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2012-09-02:5301756:Comment:433092012-09-02T20:29:41.482ZDaviduhttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/Davidu
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<p>You're too kind brother. Love the metaphors! :-)</p>
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<p>You're too kind brother. Love the metaphors! :-)</p> Good Morning, David,
You're t…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2012-09-02:5301756:Comment:432312012-09-02T13:57:23.823ZMichael Grayhttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/MichaelGray
<p>Good Morning, David,</p>
<p>You're the listener that everyone with an interrupted childhood hopes to find. I'm just saying. I take seriously your thoughts about present life, the images of a possible redemptive or karmically-rewarding future plane, and the path between them, because you seem so at home here and now. That's not all that common. The edifaces of mind so readily spin off into abstraction, elaborate constructs, and self-referring assertions, that it is very comforting to be…</p>
<p>Good Morning, David,</p>
<p>You're the listener that everyone with an interrupted childhood hopes to find. I'm just saying. I take seriously your thoughts about present life, the images of a possible redemptive or karmically-rewarding future plane, and the path between them, because you seem so at home here and now. That's not all that common. The edifaces of mind so readily spin off into abstraction, elaborate constructs, and self-referring assertions, that it is very comforting to be in the company of a mind able to share its particular radar sweep across the open water through which our boat is sailing. In the darkened wheel house, the moon glancing off the salt water, the peaks of the rockies forming a monilithic bowl around our seemingly motionless suspension in the midst of it all, those pings of the radar and it's sweeping pictures of where we are and where we are going--I believe that I can now happily pass on that milkshake. Michael <br/><br/><cite>Davidu said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/forum/topics/gaia-the-greater-life-accessible-here-and-now?page=1&commentId=5301756%3AComment%3A43301&x=1#5301756Comment43301"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Hi Michael,</p>
<p>Nice to see you over here. I suppose if you accept without question a better plane awaits after death, the real question, as you seem to point toward, is not if there is in fact a better place, but how believing in a better place affects how we behave <i>'in this life'</i>? Projecting what has made us happy in the past into an imaginative after-death plane, "<i>maximum-fat creamy milk shakes</i>", etc., can be a self-soothing, <i>'after-bubble</i>' we live in today. While I like the idea, as you say, of integrating our "<i>accidental wants within a greater whole, where our objectives and affinities pertain to a greater life, one in which we are a joyous participant, but no more at the center than all the other participants</i>" appeals to me, I haven't yet risen to that level of everyday existence. You are probably much closer to that simply by means of your non-profit work with those afflicted with neuromuscular diseases. </p>
<p>But I do get glimpses of <em>Knowing</em> on an expansive level, where the <i>'me at the center</i>' seems to relinquish its dominance as a declarative, gathering tendency that allows for what you describe as a "<i>vast, mysterious, and a fitting home for consciousness</i>". Because of these glimpses the need for self-soothing '<em>after-bubbles</em>' like 'Heaven' simply don't seem necessary, but the concept remains an open question.</p>
<p>David</p>
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</blockquote> Hi Michael,
Nice to see you o…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2012-08-29:5301756:Comment:433012012-08-29T17:50:12.229ZDaviduhttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/Davidu
<p>Hi Michael,</p>
<p>Nice to see you over here. I suppose if you accept without question a better plane awaits after death, the real question, as you seem to point toward, is not if there is in fact a better place, but how believing in a better place affects how we behave <i>'in this life'</i>? Projecting what has made us happy in the past into an imaginative after-death plane, "<i>maximum-fat creamy milk shakes</i>", etc., can be a self-soothing, <i>'after-bubble</i>' we live in today. …</p>
<p>Hi Michael,</p>
<p>Nice to see you over here. I suppose if you accept without question a better plane awaits after death, the real question, as you seem to point toward, is not if there is in fact a better place, but how believing in a better place affects how we behave <i>'in this life'</i>? Projecting what has made us happy in the past into an imaginative after-death plane, "<i>maximum-fat creamy milk shakes</i>", etc., can be a self-soothing, <i>'after-bubble</i>' we live in today. While I like the idea, as you say, of integrating our "<i>accidental wants within a greater whole, where our objectives and affinities pertain to a greater life, one in which we are a joyous participant, but no more at the center than all the other participants</i>" appeals to me, I haven't yet risen to that level of everyday existence. You are probably much closer to that simply by means of your non-profit work with those afflicted with neuromuscular diseases. </p>
<p>But I do get glimpses of <em>Knowing</em> on an expansive level, where the <i>'me at the center</i>' seems to relinquish its dominance as a declarative, gathering tendency that allows for what you describe as a "<i>vast, mysterious, and a fitting home for consciousness</i>". Because of these glimpses the need for self-soothing '<em>after-bubbles</em>' like 'Heaven' simply don't seem necessary, but the concept remains an open question.</p>
<p>David</p> Hi, Michael, welcome to the I…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2012-08-23:5301756:Comment:431312012-08-23T15:28:31.831ZBalderhttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/BruceAlderman
<p>Hi, Michael, welcome to the IPS forum. Have you shared these ideas with Christian believers? It is a good message for adopting a more this-worldly, participatory, respectful orientation with the greater life of our planet.</p>
<p>Hi, Michael, welcome to the IPS forum. Have you shared these ideas with Christian believers? It is a good message for adopting a more this-worldly, participatory, respectful orientation with the greater life of our planet.</p>