Eco Transitions - Integral Post-Metaphysical Spirituality2024-03-28T18:10:48Zhttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/forum/topics/eco-transitions?commentId=5301756%3AComment%3A44086&feed=yes&xn_auth=noIn my research today I found…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2014-03-27:5301756:Comment:548432014-03-27T17:55:14.061ZEdward theurj Bergehttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/theurj
<p>In my research today I found a couple of old Arnsperger articles at Integral Life: <a href="https://integrallife.com/integral-post/obama%E2%80%99s-%E2%80%9Cjobs%E2%80%9D-speech-brilliant-integral-politics" target="_blank">Obama's Jobs Speech</a> and <a href="https://integrallife.com/integral-post/american-jobs-act-lesson-4-quadrant-economics" target="_blank">The American Jobs Act</a>. From the latter:</p>
<p>"Obama’s economic worldview, in terms of spiral dynamics, is orange-going-on-green.…</p>
<p>In my research today I found a couple of old Arnsperger articles at Integral Life: <a href="https://integrallife.com/integral-post/obama%E2%80%99s-%E2%80%9Cjobs%E2%80%9D-speech-brilliant-integral-politics" target="_blank">Obama's Jobs Speech</a> and <a href="https://integrallife.com/integral-post/american-jobs-act-lesson-4-quadrant-economics" target="_blank">The American Jobs Act</a>. From the latter:</p>
<p>"Obama’s economic worldview, in terms of spiral dynamics, is orange-going-on-green. [...] He is a Keynesian, basically demand-side Democrat who believes the capitalist economy can be helped by budget policy to grow and to create many more jobs than it destroys; he is an egalitarian liberal, meaning a liberal who thinks equality shouldn’t be total (you need a significant degree of income inequality to keep incentives active and to keep people innovative and entrepreneurial) but who believes that America should embody the ideal of equal opportunity to the fullest and that public policy can be active in providing the conditions for this to be the case; he thinks that earning your income through a job—rather than through either unemployment insurance extended too long, or financial speculation made too easy—is an expression of personal responsibility, and that endeavoring to provide jobs for everyone is an expression of collective responsibility.</p>
<p>"He is facing a Republican party—as well as a contingent of economists—who are predominantly blue-harking-back-to-red, and who staunchly believe that with people, especially the rich, behaving as they do (as described by the upper-right quadrant) and with capitalism, globalized and financialized, operating as it does (as taught by the lower-right quadrant), providing tax breaks in the middle income brackets and requiring “millionaires and billionaires” to step up and accept higher taxes will be self-defeating: It will, so the story runs, cause closedowns and capital flights so that there will be a net <em>destruction</em> of jobs."</p>
<p>"Can the capitalist market economy be compatible with a liberal-egalitarian Democratic set of values? It has in the past. It may no longer today. Not because that worldview has become “wrong,” but because both (a) the system’s inner workings have been modified over the past three decades through reform after reform going in the direction of more liberalization and more privatization and (b) the system’s “inhabitants,” we as citizens, have changed on average (in the upper-left quadrant) in a direction that may make this worldview less workable. The period from 1979 to 2008—with Reagan, Bush Sr., Clinton, and Bush, Jr. officiating as successive presidents—has been one in which a fully-fledged “spirituality of economic individualism” has made its way into US citizens’ consciousness, mostly under the pressure of a globalized economy put together by red-to-blue decision-makers. Not that the regression from orange-green to red-blue occurred in every individual citizen to the same extent, but on average the end of the 1970s ushered in a period of memetic regression that is only now starting to get reversed. Reversed it will be, for sure."</p> Impressive.tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2012-12-11:5301756:Comment:440872012-12-11T17:14:21.128ZEdward theurj Bergehttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/theurj
<p>Impressive.</p>
<p>Impressive.</p> The student I mentioned last…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2012-12-11:5301756:Comment:440862012-12-11T06:33:34.003ZBalderhttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/BruceAlderman
<p>The student I mentioned last year has posted an update, and <a href="http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1126481827/ten-acre-organics-urban-farm-with-aquaponics" target="_blank">started a Kickstarter campaign</a>, for their integrated, sustainable farming project (changing the name, it appears, from Autopoetic Cooperative to Ten Acre Organics).</p>
<p>The student I mentioned last year has posted an update, and <a href="http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1126481827/ten-acre-organics-urban-farm-with-aquaponics" target="_blank">started a Kickstarter campaign</a>, for their integrated, sustainable farming project (changing the name, it appears, from Autopoetic Cooperative to Ten Acre Organics).</p> They have huge plans for Aust…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2011-08-18:5301756:Comment:255382011-08-18T13:24:14.575ZBalderhttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/BruceAlderman
They have huge plans for Austin; some really interesting stuff. I wish them (and you, if you get connected with them) luck!
They have huge plans for Austin; some really interesting stuff. I wish them (and you, if you get connected with them) luck! Thank you very much for the r…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2011-08-18:5301756:Comment:257162011-08-18T12:50:10.471ZEdward theurj Bergehttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/theurj
Thank you very much for the reference. Seems its based in Austin, my home town. I'm going to check this out.
Thank you very much for the reference. Seems its based in Austin, my home town. I'm going to check this out. A student in my Living System…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2011-08-18:5301756:Comment:257152011-08-18T04:59:46.236ZBalderhttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/BruceAlderman
A student in my Living Systems class is starting a pretty interesting-sounding business -- or rather, integrated suite of businesses -- which is right in line, it seems to me, with the vision of folks like Arnsperger, Rifkin, and others: <a href="http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Autopoetic-Cooperative-Project/180735805319865" target="_blank">Autopoetic Cooperative</a>.
A student in my Living Systems class is starting a pretty interesting-sounding business -- or rather, integrated suite of businesses -- which is right in line, it seems to me, with the vision of folks like Arnsperger, Rifkin, and others: <a href="http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Autopoetic-Cooperative-Project/180735805319865" target="_blank">Autopoetic Cooperative</a>. Also along these lines I've b…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2011-08-06:5301756:Comment:248102011-08-06T15:31:47.383ZEdward theurj Bergehttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/theurj
<p>Also along these lines I've been thinking about the Tea Party. Even though I am convinced they economic agenda is in the wrong direction their political successes speaks to indeed that radical change can happen from outside the system. Granted they elected <em>into</em> the system some of their representatives but their success has come from their recalcitrant refusal to participate in the usual workings of that system. In other words, they are still outside that system. So why not the more…</p>
<p>Also along these lines I've been thinking about the Tea Party. Even though I am convinced they economic agenda is in the wrong direction their political successes speaks to indeed that radical change can happen from outside the system. Granted they elected <em>into</em> the system some of their representatives but their success has come from their recalcitrant refusal to participate in the usual workings of that system. In other words, they are still outside that system. So why not the more progressive revolution from without, electing our representatives into the system with the commitment to remain without it by refusing to go along with business as usual, by holding up the system until we win in the ways the Tea Party has done.</p>
<p>And no, this is not a reactionary movement as if it were an equal and opposite pole of the Tea Party but rather an <em>evolutionary advance</em>* that sticks to its principles for a much more short-term and radical way to effect the necessary change <em>within</em> the system by remaining <em>without</em> it in action.</p>
<p>* Warning, intentional and transparent use of "integral" dog whistle.</p> I quickly skimmed the posts s…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2011-08-06:5301756:Comment:248082011-08-06T15:14:14.806ZEdward theurj Bergehttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/theurj
<p>I quickly skimmed the posts since 6/5, reading a few sections here and there. It seems the bottom line is that effective transition to the "next-step economy" must come from those within the existing business and political structures through individual "changes in consciousness." And that this will have to happen in transition stages over a long period. Arnsperger does though realize that to do so within the system has the high likelihood of being corrupted by that system, much like freshly…</p>
<p>I quickly skimmed the posts since 6/5, reading a few sections here and there. It seems the bottom line is that effective transition to the "next-step economy" must come from those within the existing business and political structures through individual "changes in consciousness." And that this will have to happen in transition stages over a long period. Arnsperger does though realize that to do so within the system has the high likelihood of being corrupted by that system, much like freshly minted lawyers start their first job believing in truth and justice and are quickly disabused of such pipe dreams. And that there will be those within the system who will use the language of the new ecopreneurs to maintain the status quo by rhetorically manipulating those truly interested in such change. Like Obama, for one. Or oil company subsidies to research alternative energy while really using the money and research to sabotage such alternatives.</p>
<p>Arnsperger is no fool and sees the inherent problems to changing the system from the inside but he has faith nonetheless that this is the only way that real, long-term change is feasible despite the challenges. I must admit I have difficulty sharing his faith. Even when we look at I-I's "<a href="http://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/forum/topics/integral-global-capitalism" target="_self">integral capitalism</a>," for example, we see that it has become corrupted by the system, reinforcing Kennilingam's own assertion that the economic system is the key generator of individual worldview, and usually unconsciously. I truly question whether the changes we need can come from participating within that system, since those already within are master manipulators and will skillfully and subversively assimilate the new "integralists" to their agenda and change them in the process, not the other way around.</p> I have not yet. And I have no…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2011-06-25:5301756:Comment:203572011-06-25T22:42:53.558ZEdward theurj Bergehttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/theurj
I have not yet. And I have not kept up with Arnsperger's last 2 blog posts, having other priorities lately. The 6/5 post is called "re-thinking money creation and fostering a new ecology of currencies." I did a quick search and did not find bitcoin but it seems the general idea is popular in the emerging p2p meme. And Arnsperger so far has seemed to be on to only those ideas that are practical and could be implemented, given the necessary (and questionable) political will of the people to make…
I have not yet. And I have not kept up with Arnsperger's last 2 blog posts, having other priorities lately. The 6/5 post is called "re-thinking money creation and fostering a new ecology of currencies." I did a quick search and did not find bitcoin but it seems the general idea is popular in the emerging p2p meme. And Arnsperger so far has seemed to be on to only those ideas that are practical and could be implemented, given the necessary (and questionable) political will of the people to make it so. I'll catch up on Arnsperger and your referenced article as soon as I'm able.<a href="http://eco-transitions.blogspot.com/2011/06/what-transition-part-4-renewing_05.html"><br/></a>
<h3 class="post-title entry-title"></h3> Have you heard much about bit…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2011-06-25:5301756:Comment:199602011-06-25T17:46:39.672ZBalderhttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/BruceAlderman
<p>Have you heard much about bitcoin and the push for a decentralized, open source currency? I've come across a few references to it in the last month. I'm not sure if this is viable, but I thought it merited sharing on this thread.</p>
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<a href="http://catalysthouse.net/decentralized-barter-currency-gaining-traction/" target="_blank">Decentralized Barter Currency Gaining Traction</a><br/>
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<p>Have you heard much about bitcoin and the push for a decentralized, open source currency? I've come across a few references to it in the last month. I'm not sure if this is viable, but I thought it merited sharing on this thread.</p>
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<a href="http://catalysthouse.net/decentralized-barter-currency-gaining-traction/" target="_blank">Decentralized Barter Currency Gaining Traction</a><br/>
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