Dispirited: How Contemporary Spirituality Makes Us Stupid, Selfish, and Unhappy - Integral Post-Metaphysical Spirituality2024-03-29T13:17:41Zhttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/forum/topics/dispirited-how-contemporary-spirituality-makes-us-stupid-selfish?commentId=5301756%3AComment%3A41079&feed=yes&xn_auth=noHis 5/10/12 blog post, quotin…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2012-06-02:5301756:Comment:410822012-06-02T19:12:35.704ZEdward theurj Bergehttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/theurj
<p>His 5/10/12 <a href="http://dispirited.org/blog/" target="_blank">blog</a> post, quoting Zizek. Sound familiar?</p>
<p>"New Age ideologists...silently impose a 'pure' procedure of Zen-like spiritual meditation as the 'whiteness' of religion. The idea is that all religions presuppose, rely on, exploit, manipulate, etc., the same core of mystical experience, and that it is only 'pure' forms of meditation like Zen Buddhism that exemplify this core directly, bypassing institutional and dogmatic…</p>
<p>His 5/10/12 <a href="http://dispirited.org/blog/" target="_blank">blog</a> post, quoting Zizek. Sound familiar?</p>
<p>"New Age ideologists...silently impose a 'pure' procedure of Zen-like spiritual meditation as the 'whiteness' of religion. The idea is that all religions presuppose, rely on, exploit, manipulate, etc., the same core of mystical experience, and that it is only 'pure' forms of meditation like Zen Buddhism that exemplify this core directly, bypassing institutional and dogmatic mediations. Spiritual meditation, in its abstraction from institutionalized religion, appears today as the zero-level undistorted core of religion: the complex institutional and dogmatic edifice which sustains every particular religion is dismissed as a contingent secondary coating of this core. The reason for this shift of accent from religious institution to the intimacy of spiritual experience is that such a meditation is the ideological form that best fits today’s global capitalism."</p>
<p>Bingo.</p> I will post more later, but l…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2012-06-02:5301756:Comment:411452012-06-02T18:00:55.556ZBalderhttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/BruceAlderman
<p>I will post more later, but looking at a few blog entries on the above-linked site, I notice he deals with a few issues I have also explored in recent writings (the question of the validity of multiple paths, the mystical universalism of New Age / perennialist spirituality, etc). The immediate difference I see is that he appears to be arguing for an atheist-materialist view of reality as Reality, and does not appear to recognize or appreciate the "enactive" orientation we explore here. But…</p>
<p>I will post more later, but looking at a few blog entries on the above-linked site, I notice he deals with a few issues I have also explored in recent writings (the question of the validity of multiple paths, the mystical universalism of New Age / perennialist spirituality, etc). The immediate difference I see is that he appears to be arguing for an atheist-materialist view of reality as Reality, and does not appear to recognize or appreciate the "enactive" orientation we explore here. But I say that with some reservation; I'll read more and will comment again then.</p>
<p></p> Yes, definitely his critiques…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2012-06-02:5301756:Comment:408992012-06-02T17:53:36.810ZBalderhttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/BruceAlderman
<p>Yes, definitely his critiques line up with some of those you and others have voiced here over the years. He has a blog where he takes up some of these issues and questions: <a href="http://dispirited.org/" target="_blank">Dispirited.</a></p>
<p>Yes, definitely his critiques line up with some of those you and others have voiced here over the years. He has a blog where he takes up some of these issues and questions: <a href="http://dispirited.org/" target="_blank">Dispirited.</a></p> Indeed. We see some of my cri…tag:integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com,2012-06-02:5301756:Comment:410792012-06-02T15:22:04.347ZEdward theurj Bergehttp://integralpostmetaphysics.ning.com/profile/theurj
<p>Indeed. We see some of my criticisms of kennlingus therein, with the latter's <em>inner</em> focus and therefore specious criticism of political activism as pomo relativism. Which is also part of what I'm railing about in the OOO thread concerning such inner, phenomenological 'states,' which seem not to be just part of an overall integral metatheory but the <em>origin</em> of such a theory. For example, <em>consciousness per se</em> as THE altitude in any-every kosmic address, discussed…</p>
<p>Indeed. We see some of my criticisms of kennlingus therein, with the latter's <em>inner</em> focus and therefore specious criticism of political activism as pomo relativism. Which is also part of what I'm railing about in the OOO thread concerning such inner, phenomenological 'states,' which seem not to be just part of an overall integral metatheory but the <em>origin</em> of such a theory. For example, <em>consciousness per se</em> as THE altitude in any-every kosmic address, discussed before. Also the kennilingual adherence to conscious <em>capitalism,</em> an outgrowth of the "capitalist form of religion" Webster discusses.</p>